So in theory, you concede that the Government could be responsible for climate change? You admit that repeated deliberate altering of the weather could ultimately change the climate. If burning fossil fuels and chopping down trees is playing a role as you claim, then it follows that intentionally mucking with the weather and atmosphere may also play a role? Yes? For your perusal… https://www.alachuacounty.us/Depts/epd/EPAC/Angels Dont Play This HAARP by Nick Begich 1997.pdf Notes on HAARP - High Active Auroral Research Project "Microwave arrays," the same as Tesla's experiments, became the foundation for the "High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project," "HAARP," which has become a DoD project. Notably, it was used in "Project Popeye," over Vietnam. HAARP in operation may cause a luminous cloud, or light phenomena to be visible, as the plasma of super heated vapor, caused by "radio tower" array emitters. The observer may note extreme differentials in barometric pressure, in the "lifting" of the troposphere, and the presence of various particles dropped in plane dusting. An EARTHQUAKE to follow shortly. The Sichuan Earthquake, in 2006, on the LongMenShan fault of the Tibetan plateau was precipitated by lights in the sky. They were noted by many, and recorded. excerpt, pg 16, "Angels Don't Play this Harp." "There was that word ―"resonance" again. The electrical engineers talked about a buildup of ever more powerful effects. Manning may have had a puzzled expression on her face, because one man turned to her and offered to further explain resonance. He gave the example of a child pushing a larger person on a swing. Small pushes, correctly timed, gradually increase the distance through which the swing speeds." HAARP - details of its capabilities from the main HAARP patent (4,686,605): 1. Can lift a portion of the atmosphere: "excitation of electron cyclotron resonance is sufficient to cause movement of a plasma region along said diverging magnetic field lines to an altitude higher than the altitude at which said excitation was initiated" 2. Move portions of the atmosphere: "rising plasma region pulls with it a substantial portion of neutral particles of the atmosphere which exist in or near said plasma region" 3. Causes energy waves in the ionosphere: "second radiation excites plasma waves within ionosphere " 4. Alters selected regions of the atmosphere: "This invention relates to a method and apparatus for altering at least one selected region normally existing above the earth's surface and more particularly relates to a method and apparatus for altering said at least one region by initially transmitting electromagnetic radiation from the earth's surface essentially parallel to and along naturally-occurring, divergent magnetic field lines which extend from the earth's surface through the region or regions to be altered" 5. HAARP uses barium as part of its wave-carrying plasma: "It has also been proposed to release large clouds of barium in the magnetosphere so that photoionization will increase the cold plasma density, thereby producing electron precipitation through enhanced whistler-mode interactions" 6. Charges or ionizes regions of particles in the atmosphere: "Sufficient energy is employed to cause ionization of neutral particles (molecules of oxygen, nitrogen and the like, particulates, etc.) which then become a part of the region thereby increasing the charged particle density of the region. This effect can further be enhanced by providing artificial particles, e.g., electrons, ions, etc., directly into the region to be affected from a rocket, satellite, or the like to supplement the particles in the naturally-occurring plasma. These artificial particles are also ionized by the transmitted electromagnetic radiation thereby increasing charged particle density of the resulting plasma in the region" 7. Causes oscillation (pulses) of energy at specific locations in the atmosphere: "Sufficient power can be applied so that the altered plasma can be trapped on the field line between mirror points and will oscillate in space for prolonged periods of time. By this embodiment, a plume of altered plasma can be established at selected locations for communication modification or other purposes" 8. Propagates selected frequency waves throughout the ionosphere: "The amplitude of the frequency of the main beam and/or the second beam or beams is modulated in resonance with at least one known oscillation mode in the selected region or regions to excite the known oscillation mode to propagate a known frequency wave or waves throughout the ionosphere" 9. Can be used to interfere with, or enhance, communications: "this invention provides the ability to put unprecedented amounts of power in the earth's atmosphere at strategic locations and to maintain the power injection level, particularly if random pulsing is employed, in a manner far more precise and better controlled than heretofore accomplished by the prior art, particularly by the detonation of nuclear devices of various yeilds at various altitudes....Thus, it can be seen that the disrupting effects achievable by this invention can be employed to benefit by the party who is practicing this invention since knowledge of the various electromagnetic waves being employed and how they will vary in frequency and magnitude can be used to an advantage for positive communication and eavesdropping purposes at the same time" 10. Weather modification: "Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device" 11. Can change the molecular structure of locations in the atmosphere: "Molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that positive environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence. For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc. concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased. Similarly, environmental enhancement could be achieved by causing the breakup of various chemical entities such as carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrous oxides, and the like" 12. Transportation of material across the atmosphere: "Transportation of entities can also be realized when advantage is taken of the drag effects caused by regions of the atmosphere moving up along diverging field lines. Small micron sized particles can be then transported, and, under certain circumstances and with the availability of sufficient energy, larger particles or objects could be similarly affected. Particles with desired characteristics such as tackiness, reflectivity, absorptivity, etc., can be transported for specific purposes or effects" 13. The earth's magnetic field can be disrupted: "The earth's magnetic field could be decreased or disrupted at appropriate altitudes to modify or eliminate the magnetic field in high Compton electron generation regions. 14. Electrical fields can be created in the atmosphere: "High intensity, well controlled electrical fields can be provided in selected locations for various purposes" HAARP - details of its capabilities from its inventor, Dr. Bernard Eastlund: 1. Telecommunications - mobile phones, Long haul communication 2. Atmospheric Heating - Controlled heating of specific atmospheric regions, Controlling electrical conductivity of atmosphere 3. Weather Research - Modification of steering winds, Modification of electrical patterns, Generation of acoustic and gravitational waves 4. Weather Research Applications - Heating of steering winds in mesocyclones and hurricanes, Modification of electrical patterns in mesocyclones, Generation of acoustic and gravitational waves (gravity waves can produce severe weather, and transfer energy which results in unstable cloud layers and weather behavior) 5. Applications discussed in the patents included destroying missiles, communications control and disruption, to modify weather, and to lift a portion of the upper atmosphere further out into space, where hopefully it would be able to deflect missile trajectories.
It’s about reading between the lines and drawing your own conclusions. Sure, it’s possible the 79 arrests are all independent. But that doesn’t actually even matter does it? What matters is that 79 people may have started the fires, not climate change. Of course, they have to mention climate change because that’s the culture we live in. It’s very possible that these fires never would have existed if it wasn’t for the arsonists. I really find it amazing that I have to even explain this to you. Blaming fires started by arsonists on climate change is incredibly dishonest and extreme mental gymnastics.
Sure, government could contribute. But private industry and the fossil fuels are the biggest factors. Everything man does is a factor.
Well, you claimed they conspired. No evidence of that. Climate change contributes to the ease of starting a fire and the rate of it growing and spreading. So, yes it matters. I never blamed climate change for starting any fire that was started by an arsonist. So don't go there. I really find it amazing that I have to even explain this to you, read on:
I read the article and get the gist. I just don’t take everything at face value like you do. Again, apply this to rape: “Rapists were blamed for some of the assaults in Greece, although rapists are actually a minor cause of rapes in the country. With drunk women providing more of the conditions that support toxic masculinity, fresh opportunities are arising for people to start rapes, whether on purpose or by accident.” Regarding this part: “Of the past Greek wildfires with a verified ignition cause, only 23% were caused by arson. Most arose from fires on farmland initially started to burn crop waste or encourage new growth of pasture grasses, or from fires on scrubland and grassland that were lit to manage unwanted vegetation.“ Well regarding this article, the percentile is more like 56%. “Government spokesperson Pavlos Marinakis told Greek public broadcaster ERT that of 140 wildfire-related arrests, 79 were related to arson.” Greece makes 79 arson arrests over wildfires - BBC News
Yes I know, if the article says so, then it is so. A conspiracy by nature would never try to bend the truth anyway.
Did yall hear of the 477mile long lightning bolt awhile back? Across 3states. Beat a south american one a few yrs priorly.
Why would you conclude that private industry and burning fossil fuels plays a bigger role in climate change than directly and intentionally altering the weather, atmosphere, ionosphere, magnetic field, etc.? It’s the exact same question as the Pandemic. Why on Earth would you conclude that directly and intentionally conducting gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in the Wuhan laboratory probably plays no role in the ensuing coronavirus Pandemic that originated out of Wuhan? Could it be cognitive dissonance?
Your first sentence makes no sense. "...rapists are actually a minor cause of rapes in the country." There can't be rapes without rapists, so this part is nonsense. Now the second part, "With drunk women providing more of the conditions that support toxic masculinity..." What does that mean? Drunk woman make men feel more masculine? All men or some men? "...fresh opportunities are arising for people to start rapes, whether on purpose or by accident." Accidental rapes? Come on. So regarding one article about some arrests involving some fires, but not all fires, the number was 56%. I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that if we limit the fires to one arrest for arson the percentage of fires caused by arson would be 100%.
I make my conclusions based on the reported science. Why would you conclude that the government is intentionally altering the climate and why would you stick to your COVID theories, without any scientific evidence?
It was just that in your first response to this thread you said about the media manipulating people and controlling their beliefs. You seemed to say that this is a "bigger thought" than the issue of climate change itself. If the media control people's thoughts, then is this intentional or not? And what would their motive be? Also, I'm not sure that abusing a water supply on an island would affect the climate. Doing that wouldn't actually change the moisture content in the air, nor the local temperature.
How often do we hear of something like this? & it aint just lengths of em. That may be increasing. Durations may be as well.
In the case of rape, if there are no rapists, there can be no rape. Rapists are therefor fundamentally the cause of rape. In the case of forest fires/ wildfires, the fundamental cause is the supply of dry, dead vegetation, which is in turn the result climate change. Even with zero arsonists, we would still have forest fires/ wildfires. A better analogy is a time bomb. The dead vegetation is a time bomb that is created by climate change. Even if someone fires a bullet at the time bomb to detonate it prematurely, it's going to detonate eventually no matter what.
There are other factors here maybe not touched. Folks bearings evidences. Are routinely murdered or imprisoned etc. Same goes for ufos & cancer cures. To name just a few.
When haven’t forest fires existed? Never. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/earth-oldest-wildfire-430-million-years-ago-fossil-charcoal#:~:text=Bits of charcoal entombed in,around 430 million years ago. Therefore you gotta stop trying to skirt around placing blame where it is due…the arsonists. I don’t care whether it’s even organized or not, although 79 different arrests lends credence to that it is organized in my opinion. The fact is that people are deliberately setting fires. Why exactly? That’s not a climate change problem. That’s a people are deliberately starting fires problem, lol. If I deliberately burn someone’s house down, I’m not gonna get off scot free because “the grass is dry because muh climate change”…and even if I did get arrested, it would be foolish for the local news to report that arsonist has been arrested and then casually throw climate change into the conversation. It’s bollocks.
There have been wildfires since at least 430 million tears ago according to your source. Therefore you conclude that forest fires have always existed. Therefore you seem to conclude that arsonist have always existed, as arsonists are to blame for wildfires. However, as humanity began about 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, with language beginning about 50,000 years ago, the fire in your link preceded mankind, and therefore arsonists, by about 130 to 230 million years. So what kind of arsonist set that fire? As it was the Upper Silurian Period it must have been millipedes and/or scorpions.