Climate Change is Accelerating

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Joshua Tree, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    I should have known.
     
  2. Driftrue

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    I'm the same. I'm not claiming I can only read.. I just don't enjoy youtube videos 90% of the time. That's why I'm here on a text based forum rather than debating in YouTube comments. I've also yet to research a climate change sceptic scientist who seems credible as a scientist.
     
  3. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Ship me your mind and I'll send it back with information installed.
     
  4. Meliai

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    From the same source:

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    See, this is what I mean. 5 seconds of glancing over their website and its obviously not a credible source. Give me a credible source bro
     
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  5. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    17 yrs ago. What surprises me is the number of record highs set decades ago.
     
  6. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Your definition of a credible source is one that says what you want to hear.

    After all that fooling around you could've listened to the video while catching up with cleaning.
     
  7. Driftrue

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    YouTube videos are a dangerous way to spread information. They appeal to idiots. It's easy. Often people just shout their opinions as fact. There often aren't links to sources. They get more of an emotional reaction. They are an easily misused tool. They're also an easy way for idiots to spread ideas they don't even understand, without making them think about the topic too hard.

    Not saying any of this applies here necessarily, but it's why I don't watch them.
     
  8. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    You don't have to "watch". I listen while doing other things. Like listening to the radio. Easy-peasy!
     
  9. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Do you watch the news?
     
  10. Irminsul

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    I have a different reason to not watch YouTube.

    I'm listening to music.

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  11. Meliai

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    Dude.
    The website is obviously pushing an agenda. And they're using National Enquire-esque tactics in a poor attempt to discredit someone who disagrees with them, why should I pay attention to them?
    Who is speaking in the video and why should I listen to them? What are their credentials? What studies do they cite?
    I asked for research so I'm obviously not against hearing something that isnt what I want to hear. But I'm not going to listen to a website that it takes a couple of seconds to review with a critical eye and see they're using dishonest tactics to push an agenda.
    It isnt a bad thing to be discerning of sources, as drift pointed out there is a lot of mis/disinformation being spread out there.
     
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  12. Driftrue

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    My answer has to be yes, because the man I live with watches it. When I am alone or live alone, no.

    It's different anyway, there are standards and governing bodies dedicated to upholding those standards.
     
  13. Driftrue

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    Sorry, where was the word "watch" in my post?
    "Listen" doesn't negate anything I said.
     
  14. Driftrue

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    And like Mel, I am not remotely worried about finding information I "don't want to hear". In this case, it would mean everything was okay, wouldn't it! I think we made this point in VG's climate thread... We don't WANT the world to be on the brink of disaster. I'm definitely not opposed to COMPLETELY changing my opinion, that would be a good thing, but nothing anyone shows me manages to do it.
     
  15. tumbling.dice

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    The dude seems legit, but he isn't a climatologist. Ottmar Edenhofer is an economist. He got his Diploma in Economics at the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich. He completed his PhD in Economics at the Technical University of Darmstadt in 1999. He also has a bachelor's degree in Philosophy from the Munich School of Philosophy.

    Edenhofer says that his interest in philosophy and economics was influenced by his readings of the works of Henry George, Karl Marx, Max Weber, Ludwig Wittgenstein and John Dewey. Regarding climate change he says: "Denying out and out that climate change is a problem for humanity, as some cynics do, is an unethical, unacceptable position."

    Edenhofer favors cap-and-trade over a direct carbon tax as the most efficient method to reduce greenhouse emissions and encourage innovation to preserve the climate. He feels strongly that moving the global economy to a low-carbon threshold requires huge increases in the use of renewable energy across all economic sectors.

    Ottmar Edenhofer - Wikipedia
     
  16. Driftrue

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    That you think we wouldn't want to hear anything that wasn't what we already thought is hilarious, actually. I don't want to be right this time.

    And I don't really care about right vs wrong in general anyway.
     
  17. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    I can't listen to music and pay attention to something else at the same time.
     
  18. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Especially when you refuse to look at it.
     
  19. Meliai

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    Thanks lol.
    So basically he's not debating that anthropogenic climate change isn't real, his concern is more with how the world responds to it from an economic point of view
     
  20. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Yeah, the mainstream media is credible.
    They never opine, spin, or "spread ideas they don't even understand".
     

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