Climate Change is Accelerating

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Joshua Tree, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. Irminsul

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    Gretas really just a troll though lol. Picking on celebrities and sports people over their sponsorships. I liked the tennis players tweet back, basically asking her nicely to mind her own business and stop trying to drag him over coals, all over a bank sponsorship.
     
  2. granite45

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    Celebrities need to be aware of the social conscience of their monetary supporters. As far as “coals” is concerned, good choice of words since coal remains one of the dirtiest and high CO2 emitting energy sources. We can do better.
     
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  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I dont really get how some one that says they were an economist can then focus on one country and try blame "Trumpites" especially since most of his support base are low to middle income midwestern, southern americans free of the advantages of that inter generational equity

    There are a bunch of indian cities that are going to run out of ground water this year, farmers in brazil burning up the amazon and no one really made an effort to try find other income sources for them, the number of people in China over 60 was 246 million in 2017, will over take the entire population of the US in about 10 or 15 years

    And you are going on about Trumpites?
     
  4. granite45

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    The US is alone in the World in not signing on to the Paris Climate accord. A badge of shame and insensitivity. If the rest of the World generated as much CO2 per capita as the US, the climate crisis would be much worse.
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Yes, which is not confined to the 63 million out of 330 million that actually voted for him in 2016

    The world hit 2 billion plane trips for the first time in 2019, for US citizens, their contribution more likely to come from cashed up retirees in florida, inner city twats in NY, LA, Frisco, you know all the blue states

    Thats what you lot need to get over, you dont need Trump or the UN to tell you to jump on a bicycle once in a while or buy a honda instead of a truck if you are only ever going to drive to the mall and back
     
  6. Asmodean

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    It's a combined effort. The US not signing that treaty is simply a big setback. Are you playing devil's advocate again by acting it isn't?
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    How is it a big setback if the accord isn't accomplishing anything. CO2 output is higher than ever before.
     
  8. Asmodean

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    Because of an globally growing middle class and population. Hence international countermeasures are only more neccesary.
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ok, a quick summary about the accord from you, just on your country, how much have they committed to reduce emissions, emissions of what, and by when?


    The US hasn't withdrawn yet by the way
     
  10. Asmodean

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    Why are you asking me that exactly? And no, this is not a rhetorical question.
    They have goals set, and there are serious measures taken to reach them. Will they, I don't know. Regardless, a global effort is neccesary and if the US on a national level does not goes on board with it that doesn't help. You seem to say it doesn't matter anyway. The only way people can conclude that is if they have given up on making a worthwile change.
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ok, what's the percentage though. The Netherlands has committed to reduce emissions by ___ %

    Should be an easy question to answer, shouldn't it? Since it's such an important thing
     
  12. Asmodean

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    Yups. Easy to answer and easy to look up.

    I'm not a spokesperson for my country though, so if I say something about the US and you keep asking such a question in return about my country like it renders me or my point meaningless, I would say quit that shit. I'm not arguing from a national (or individual for that matter) holier than thou stance.
     
  13. Meliai

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    Meanwhile Trump just rolled back water protections that have been in place since the 70s

    So that's really awesome.
     
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  14. Irminsul

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  15. Disagree with you on there.
    Greta is Passionate about Climate change and is not trolling.
     
  16. Vladimir Illich

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    Just wait until certain areas in the US suffer from outbreaks of Typhoid or Typhus !!!
     
  17. Asmodean

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    Dutch proverb: "The innkeeper trusts his guests like he is himself."

    Which means that such a claim (by in this instance Irminsul) often says more about the person making it, then the person called as such. This seems a prime example. Greta is clearly sincere.
     
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  18. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Sincere and vocal shouldn't be conflated with truth.
     
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  19. Irminsul

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    Apparently sincere is just another word used to describe somebody you agree with. Lulz. That pretty much sums up the calibre of how people are these days.

    Attacking sports personnel is downright gutless and just an attempt to hit mainstream publicity. It's a coward act, a low blow just to toot your own horn and its not even her own horn because she being puppeteered which makes her even less convincing and even more of a troll because she's handed the work and collects the praise.

    But yes, let's bash on tennis players because that's obviously a main contributing factor to climate change.

    Being "sincere" while having the work and your speeches written and handed to you is laughable anyway. I'd say "fraud" is a more accurate term.

    The whole Greta thing is played out anyway, nobody cares about her anymore and it's showing with her tirades at athletes now, they'll accuse anybody to make a headline. I guess a few people still get a nice lil stiffy over it. :D
     
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