Climate Change is Accelerating

Just be patient and wait till VG gets his arse crisped by the bush fires sweeping across OZ - when that happens he might then change his tune !!!

 

I learned yesterday that 87% of bushfires are man made, so when I see all the people in Australia try and protest about climate change I'm thinking maybe they need to just lay down a bit because if the article was true then it's actually not climate change that's the problem.

 

same as everywhere else, in cali the power company won't maintain their power grid, so they got fires

 

Mate the same thing happened to the Aztecs. Kill some people, throw them in running supply of drinking water. Blame the government for getting sick.

*points fingers in a gun formation to head and pretend to pull trigger while pushing my head to the left to simulate the shock of the gunpowder. Also brains everywhere.*

 

The worst thing about it is that so many people have contributed to the bushfires.
It isn't just thunderstorm activities.
It's mainly arsonists lighting fires.

 

Worded a bit oddly as the climate change people protest is man made. I'm not following the Australian media but being in an area that is susceptible to fires I'll mention that when it comes to fires, if people are attributing some of it to climate change, they're usually referring to the severity of the fires not how it started.

 

People have used strong stuff to cause fires to happen.
Petrol and other things.

Yes the bushfires are severe due to what was used to start them.
When lighting a fire you need to watch what it is you use
Also take a look at where you are.
Also make sure that you have supplies such as water to get rid of the fire.

I've seen on the news that some people do light fires and then do bugger all about them.

 

If the stats were reversed to say that climate control was responsible for 87% of the bushfires then that makes sense to protest about climate change, but the figures said that 87% were due to deliberate lighting of fires and man negligence ie. Glass in the grass, cigarette butts etc.

So to me what they should be protesting is why there isn't a team or fleet for ever national state park that patrols up and down highways getting on top of things fast and handing down harsh punishment to people caught lighting fires or being negligent. But there's only a handful of state park rangers, people are just lighting fire out there and driving away unseen.

That's what the problem is. The fires aren't happening because the earth has gone up 0.8*C since 1880.

 

On the other hand they said the only contribution to natural fires in Australia come from lightening strikes which if we have learned anything from the aboriginals, have actually been happening for thousands of years all this lightning business would you believe it?

 

just how long have these fires been going on anyway ?

 

I actually saw something on SBS Insight which is a program here in Australia on this.
It was really amazing. Learned a lot about it.
Climate Change is more to do with how people live their lives.
There are many gross people around that drop their rubbish everywhere.
Cigarette butts, their belongings in the forests, etc.
Even the climate change protestors were making a mess.

 

I think since september but got really bad in November and December. What actually seems to be the more devastating is they're so bad before the peak bushfire season so it could only get worse.

I read that a lot of the problems stemmed from the Greens not wanting to backburn bushland which reduces fire risk because they didn't want to damage the environment. Now that's been a huge consequence.

So you've got people rallying and protesting about back burning. Fair enough. That's a legit contribution to the fires, but bushfires have been happening forever, just ask the aboriginals and their mythology where fire was actually held in high regards. They couldn't sufficiently make fire so needed bushfires sometimes and they understood that nature again would flourish more once it started to grow back.

So you've got all these bushfires in Australia that have happened for thousands of years recorded in their history, and I'm not a historian but I wouldn't be surprised to find that lightening was also present in other parts of the world like Africa and south America and probably contributed to a lot of fires there too.

 

Everyone is trying to ignore the Greens due to their policies.

There is a need to backburn but it's the time of year that prevents everyone from doing it.
They need to do it during the winter.

Not many thunderstorms have started bushfires.
It's mainly idiots that want to light fires and then leave the area.
That's deliberate and is why arson is on the increase.
It would be ok if you had a bonfire where you are supervised.
Then you have to do everything right.
However, these arsonists light fires and then just leave straight away then police and emergency services are wondering who the fuck has lit a fire and didn't put it out before they left.

 

Climate and environment are two different things to me. To say that humans have ruined the environment that led to fires is one thing, but to say that it's the temperatures fault is rediculous. Climate is defined as:

climate
/ˈklʌɪmət/
noun

1. the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.

Weather conditions aren't attributed to if man throw a cigarette butt out the window. Whether or not you smash a bottle on the road doesn't cause the weather or climate to change.

 

Again, the stat is referencing cause not severity.

The cause of the fire doesn't inherently dictate severity. Climate change protestors generally protest the latter.

 

You may need to dumb that down for a 10 year old for me because I do not understand what the protest is. Severity? So man contributes to the fire and the climate is blamed for its severity?

 

Do any of you think maybe we've just overturned the order of the soul and that things are just going to get worse until we repent our sins?

 

Yes, more droughts and heat equals more kindle and ability to keep the fire going.

 

I thought were are supposed to repeat our sins

 

And I could understand the severity of bushfires being blamed on climate if the averages were 10*C hotter than usual, but they aren't and the severity for a lot the fires has already been dictated by the negligence of man to sufficiently back burn crucial areas.

I have yet to come across a native tree in Australia that naturally combusts due to high weather temperatures. It's almost as if the native trees have become used to the harsh conditions of the Australian climate. Imagine that, it's almost like evolution.

So 13% of Australian bushfires that arise naturally come from lightning strikes. Nothing else. Not even if the temperature was 15*C hotter is there any indication that a fire would break out on its own.

Therefore climate change protesting is nullified. They want to protest something they should protest the state of the environment ie. Back burning, which for many don't even recognise as a contributing factor because they're all so fascinated with the climate change fuss.