Circumcision

Yeah, what is with people lately? Have you never heard of sutures, and have you never heard of the platelets (clotting agents) in human blood?!

This is the second time, recently. Someone else said that tongue piercing has been outlawed in the U.K. because "many" people had been mispierced, an artery in their tongue had been hit, and the bleeding could not be stopped and they bled to death.

So inquisitive li'l me, I went to Google and, search though I might, I could not find any cases of people dying by bleeding to death from a botched tongue-piercing. There were infection problems, yes. NO bleed-outs. ONE case I found stated that a young woman was bleeding for about three hours after her tongue was pierced; she concealed this fact, swallowing a lot of her own blood, until she collapsed and had to be treated. Didn't die. And it was her own fault: the story said that she concealed the bleeding because she had a party she wanted to go to.

So please, people, be introspective. Question yourselves. Ask yourselves, "Do I REALLY KNOW that what I'm saying is true, or is it something I just think may be true? Or am I making it up for attention?" And only state things that you have firsthand knowledge are true. That's called honesty.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

 

How on earth would a woman be able to feel, inside her vagina, whether a penis was circumcized or not?

Are you male or female? If you're female and have had sex, maybe you're qualified to answer that. If you're male, maybe you can explain why you think circumcision decreases males' sensitivity. If you're female, maybe you can explain why removing the clitoral hood would decrease your clit's sensitivity. They're about on par with each other.

I'm circumcised and my penis is plenty sensitive.
And shit, I wouldn't want it to tickle when it was touched!

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

 

Jeffery has a point in both of his posts, simple anatomy people, simple anatomy

 

to be honest I couldn't give a fuck, I prefer un-circumcised penises but it's not a big deal. However when I have sons I would never ever let anyone chop off a bit off anything on them. but really its not as big a deal as you guys are making it out to be.

 

One of my penises is circumsized the other is not (I'm half jewish). I must say the circumcized one seems to be preferred by the ladies, and the uncircumsized by the men which is sort of odd considering girls seem to like my natural vagina while the men prefer my pierced one....

 

Agreed. It should wait until the baby/boy or girl is old enough to make that decision by themselves.

...and yes, I am circumsiced. Never thought much about it, actually. I've always been told that it's more hygenic. Come to think of it, I've never actually seen an uncircumsiced penis.

 

there seems to be a fair amount of cirumcised men about. its not really sometihng that is common knowlege, but im wondering what are the actual proportions between cut and uncut. myself, i am cut, and its nice to know that a fair few people are.

 

in western culture most guys are circumcized, in european culture most arent....although there has been a shift in the mood of parents, now it's about 50/50 the amount of newborn being circumsized to the amount not...so the playing field in western societty is about to be leveled.

at anyrate, no that gunk stuff wasnt from when i would masturbate and not clean it out properly, i had the gunk all my life but wasnt able to cum till i was like 13/14...it was comprised of the natural slime your forskin excretes so it can be pulled back over the head of your penis without friction burn, and the fibres of whatever i was wearing that day, much like belly button lint.

 

jeffrey: its less sensitive when circumsized because it's always exposed. if it's out in the open rubbing on your pants and tsuff all the time, it gets used to that and loses it's sensitivity. uncircumsized penises are protected, therefor being more sensitive.

 

I think circumcision is good for 2 reasons

1) its cleaner
2) not being circumcised does not have a plus

 

Agreed. GO CIRCUMCISION!!!

 

As far as intercourse goes, I don't care, but oral sex? I DEFINITELY pick circumsized, definitely! Bad experience with uncircumsized one, good experience with circumsized one. Simple as that.

 

i dont really have a problem either way [though id probably circumsize my kid, just cause i am i guess].

the only negative thing i see about not being cut is the whole extra pleasure deal. i guess it would be great for getting off alone, but most guys have trouble enough getting women to orgasm, so it seems to me that being uncut would just make you go faster and make giving them orgasms harder. but im not really knowledgable, so i guess i don't really know.

 

Ohhh man, this was funny as hell. But you are right though... even if you have used derogatory words to express the truth, you have done well.

Good job my friend.

Circumcision is something that is unnatural, painful and wrong and besides I have heard that uncircumsized penises are more pleasure giving for a guy than circumsized...

 

You see, guys are born with the foreskin and the reason for it to be a bad experience for you is that probably it doesn't belong in your mouth in the first place.

 

i took this from the http://www.the-penis-website.com/
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--One of the functions of the foreskin seems to be in regulating the depth of the man's thrusting during lovemaking, and it may also help ensure a woman's vagina remains well lubricated. Two enterprising scientists set out to discover if the removal of the penile skin in circumcision has any impact on the pleasure of the man's sexual partner.

They asked 138 sexually experienced women about their preference for men with a foreskin or without a foreskin as sexual partner. Of that group 20 (14.5%) preferred circumcised sexual partners while 118 (85.5%) preferred non-circumcised sexual partners. This means that about 6 out of 7 women preferred non-circumcised partners while about 1 out of 7 preferred circumcised partners.

As reported by the women, circumcised men tended to have more premature ejaculation problems (defined as coming within two or three minutes more than 50% of the time during lovemaking) than uncircumcised men. And the women were less likely to have a vaginal orgasm during sex with a circumcised man - presumably because there was not enough stimulation on the woman' s G spot. The same was true for multiple orgasms.

Women were also more likely to say that their vaginal secretions lessened and their discomfort increased as intercourse progressed with circumcised partners. This was true whether the women preferred circumcised or uncircumcised men as sexual partners. There seemed to be a definite feeling that sex was more enjoyable as a complete experience when the man had a foreskin - presumably because there was less discomfort, so it became a more satisfying emotional experience as well. (I am circumcised and it is certainly true that my girlfriend finds her vagina getting very sore when we make love in certain positions. However, a simple application of lubricant is an easy way to solve that problem.)

When women were grouped based on the foreskin status of their most recent partner, women with uncircumcised partners had a higher rate of orgasms with them, and they were more likely to rate circumcised partners lower and uncircumcised partners higher. The women overwhelmingly agreed that the mechanics of lovemaking was different for the two groups of men. Of the women, 73% reported that circumcised men tend to thrust harder and deeper, using elongated strokes, while according to 71% of the women, uncircumcised men tend to thrust more gently, to have shorter thrusts, and tend to be in contact with the mons pubis and clitoris more.

The authors concluded that women preferred vaginal intercourse with an uncircumcised man rather than a circumcised man. They stated: "There may be many reasons for this. When the anatomically complete penis thrusts in the vagina, it does not slide, but rather glides on its own 'bedding' of movable skin.....The underlying corpus cavernosa and corpus spongiosum slide within the penile skin, while the skin next to the vaginal wall moves very little. This sheath-within-a-sheath alignment allows penile movement, and vaginal and penile stimulation, with minimal friction or loss of secretions. When the penile shaft is withdrawn slightly from the vagina, the foreskin bunches up behind the corona in a manner that allows the tip of the foreskin (which contains the highest density of fine-touch neuroreceptors in the penis) to contact the corona of the glans (which has the highest concentration of fine-touch receptors on the glans). The intense stimulation from all these nerve endings discourages the man from withdrawing his penis further, resulting in the short thrusting style that women noted in their uncircumcised partners....."

By contrast, "the skin of the circumcised penis rubs against the vaginal wall, increasing friction, abrasion and the need for artificial lubrication. Because of the tight penile skin, the corona of the glans, which is configured as a one-way valve, pulls the vaginal secretions from the vagina when the shaft is withdrawn. Unlike the anatomically complete penis, there is no sensory input to limit withdrawal. Because the vast majority of the fine-touch receptors are missing from the circumcised penis, their role as ejaculatory triggers is also absent. The loss of these receptors creates an imbalance between the deep pressure sensed in the glans, corpus cavernosa and corpus spongiosum and the missing fine touch. To compensate for the imbalance, to achieve orgasm, the circumcised man must stimulate the glans, corpus cavernosa, and corpus spongiosum by thrusting deeply in and out of the vagina. As a result, intercourse with a circumcised partner reduces the amount of vaginal secretions in the vagina, and decreases continual stimulation of the mons pubis and clitoris."

A weakness of the survey is its preoccupation with vaginal intercourse, and several women commented that the foreskin also makes a difference in foreplay and fellatio. Although this was not directly measured, some women commented that uncircumcised men appeared to enjoy intercourse more than circumcised men, and as a result wanted oral sex, masturbation and anal sex rather less than circumcised men - who were presumably looking for greater sexual stimulation to compensate for the loss of the foreskin's nerve endings.

To sum it all up, the scientists concluded that the "anatomically complete penis offers a more rewarding experience for the female partner during lovemaking......the negative effect of circumcision on the sexual enjoyment of the female partner needs to be part of any discussions about parents providing 'informed consent' for circumcision operations on their baby boys."
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sort of makes sense to me. i havent fully made up my mind yet.

butif its true then being uncircumsized definately has a plus!

 

whats with this myth that us uncircumcised guys are unclean, its not hard to clean, when in the shower, you roll back the skin and give it a wash, around the skin and the head, no problem. My girlfriend says it feels good the way it rolls inside her. The whole idea that its gonna get infected if you dont cut it off makes no sence, thats how nature made it, that skin is to keep it clean in fact. Maybe its a problem for super represed people who cant tell their son to roll back the skin and wash it, but if your not so scared of any sex related topic, just tell the kid that and he'll be fine, and his future girlfriend will find it to be perfectly clean, and with a satisfying masage like rolling motiong to it.

 

Blah, do you live for your fucking uncut cock? christ, grow the fuck up, who gives a shit? I did'nt want my foreskin cut off, but I'm not gonna go fucking boo hoo over it. The reason people say it is unhealthy is because nobody knows how to clean it properly. Alot of mothers in the us these past 10 years have been letting their sons go uncircumcised. Much more so than ever before. There's nothing wrong with this, other than that these women and their circumcised husbands don't know how to clean it. As a result, their children don't know how to clean it and their shit gets fucked up.
The feeling thing is a load of shit. If I've been uncircumcised from birth, I'm going to feel an orgasm as great. It won't be as "great" as yours, but what the fuck would I care, because I'm not you. Either way, shooting my load is gonna feel great. The only way it would matter is if I got cut as an adult.
Another thing, where did you get the idea that a cut penis does'nt have enough skin around it for proper masterbation? Because I'm cut and my skin is just fine. I don't need lube or anything. And about the kid who got cut when he was fourteen, give him a fucking break. His dick would'nt pop out of his foreskin and it fucking hurt, so he cut it off. Big fucking deal.

 

hmm i was reading some of this stuff about premature ejaculation and womens pleasure to, it makes sence that when left natural the people would come at the same time more. Me and my girlfriend tend to orgasm about the same time, and one of us coming without the other coming is rare, but happens to either of us about equally. And it doesnt mean the pleasure for the guy isnt as good, belive me its very good, it just builds up slowly and in a very pleasureable way. I dont think theres anything wrong with people who have it done, but it seems like young people should have a choice. And i dont like this whole rumor that makes women not want to give oral to uncut guys, every girl whos got near mine and tried it liked it just fine.

 

Fuck you! Your the one getting your shit in a wad, bringing your fucking 60 minutes report on how fucking inferior I am cause I got cut.