Thedope, I googled tertium verbum organum, and I don't get what it has to do with what has been written.
The third precedes the first ... There once was a King. This King had it publically announced that: "Whoever is able to show Khidr to me, I'll fulfil his every wish!" But who is able to find Khidr? No one reported himself. A poor man who had many children had heard this announcement. He said to his wife: "We'll surly die because of hunger in our present circumstances. It is a good idea that I go to the King and tell him that I am able to find Khidr. I'll ask for a period of forty days to make it come true. I'll ask the King for so much food that until the end of their lives our children have enough sustenance. When the forty days have passed the King will hang me, but all of you, at least, will be able to have a good life". The wife of the poor man tried to persuade him to renounce his foolish plan, but to no avail. The brave man went to the King and told him: "My King! I'm able to find Khidr for you. I only need a period of forty days. You have to supply all the food I desire in this period". The King ordered his food minister to give the poor man all that he wanted. During forty days the poor man asked for so many food supplies that his children could live thereof to the rest of their days. Then the 41st day arrived. The King sent for him and asked him: "Have you found Khidr?" The poor man answered: "No, my King, I was unable to find him. It was not my intention to really find him. I only did what I did out of bitter need". The King then asked one of his viziers what to do after having been lied to. The vizier answered: 'We should cut his flesh in small parts!" At the same time a child standing near them said: "Kullu shay'in ilâ asli-hî". This means; "An apple doesn't fall far from the tree!" The King asked the same question to a second vizier, who responded: "My King, we should strip him of his skin! Everyone will learn from this example to tell nothing but the truth in your presence". The child once again said: "Kullu shay'in ilâ asli-hî". The King asked the same question to a third vizier, who replied thus: "My lord! This man is poor. He only said it because he was in severe difficulties. It behoves you to pardon him". The child once again said: "Kullu shay'in ilâ asli-hî". The King then asked the child: "Who are you? I have asked my three viziers to advice me. Each time you have said: 'Kullu shay'in ilâ asli-hî'. Explain yourself!" The child gave this reply: "The father of your first vizier was a butcher. By means of his advice your vizier has shown his family background. He made it clear what his character is. The father of your second vizier was a saddle maker. He also has shown what his personal roots are. The father of your third vizier was a vizier himself. Your third vizier is a vizier from top to toe". " I have however come to help this poor man," the child continued while pointing to the accused. "In case you are looking for a good vizier, your third vizier is a good vizier! In case you are looking for Khidr, here I am!" the child said and went to the door and disappeared. ( Sufi )
Tikoo, I don't mean to be disrespectful in any way, but I get the sense that you're trying to communicate something here, and that you're not being very successful. What is it that you're wanting to say?
Here is the preface as dictated by the angel, minus the flattering stuff about the channeller and myself. It was a really close call, but I did humbly decide to selflessly omit it. _______________________________________________________ I have chosen not to offer a name because when names are given, often times they actually cloud the truth. I have also chosen not to offer any hierarchical pattern to my station within the angelic realm because I feel that this, too, would cloud the truth. Let it be known that I am an angel, and that I work specifically on a global scale. My work entails all that may fall within the category of planet Earth. I chose to dictate this book because I felt that it was time, and that it is one way in which to reach many people at one time. So, when the opportunity arose for me to work with . . . . . . And so, together, we have brought to you what we could in such a simplified way as words on paper. We ask only that you open your minds and hearts, and that you listen to your own inner guidance. We ask only that you bring to all living things--be it your own friendly dog, or a wild cat from the woods--the awareness of your relationship. We ask only that you offer the love that will allow for no harm to ever again be done to any living thing out of ignorance. Walk your path in peace and loving light, and know that we offer our blessings and our great appreciation that you have given your time to the contemplation and the work necessary for you to evolve into a level of consciousness that will finally allow peace, love, and the beauty of Eden to descend upon Gaia. Angel.
I don't know if I really want to type the whole thing out, so, here is an excerpt. ____________________________________________________ Today you have access to global news. You know what is going on in any part of the world at any given time. But what has this done for you? Have you decided that now it is your goodness of heart that brings you to a place where you would consider giving a few cans of food or a few dollars of your paycheck to feed someone in another part of the world who is in need? Do you believe that this global connection has somehow made you into a better person? Do you feel more able to deal with your day to day struggles in the knowledge of how those struggles might affect those in other parts of the world? You look out and you say, "Look at what is being done in Afghanistan, in China, and in the country of Bulgaria." But I say to you that you have diminished your own understanding and are limiting yourself in your view of your world. Because of your newscasters, your newspapers, and your satellites out in space, you believe that you have so much knowledge and so much understanding. But what happen when you walk outside and the mosquitoes bite at your skin? What is it that you do? I will tell you. You go back inside and you grab a can of chemicals--toxic by nature, and poisonous to all living things--and you, who believes yourself to be a person of global awareness, take this can of chemicals and you spray it upon the very land that, the next day, you will rest upon. You spray these chemicals upon the creatures that you feel have brought you grief, and you feel satisfied that you may now enjoy your beautiful surroundings. But once again, you exhibit a limitedness to your awareness, for now something beautiful has been contaminated, poisoned, and deadened so that you may enjoy it. Why do you feel it necessary to respond in such a way to your own area of habitation? Where do these feelings come from? When you look at your television and you see that someone in another country is spraying a poison out upon the land in an attempt to kill a group of people who they feel have been creating a disturbance and causing them an irritation, you scream your anger and disgust at this one who would commit themselves in such a way as to poison, destroy, and to murder with no thought whatsoever. However, do you see that you have done the same? Do you understand that your own actions have moved you into the same realm of being as this one whom you have denounced so vehemently and found within yourself such a hatred for? And how will you live with this hatred? How will you experience in your own life this hatred for someone who has done something that is not much different from what you yourself have done? Will you not understand the truth of it? Will you have an understanding, but ignore it? Or, will you know what you have done, and then justify your actions by saying that the little creatures you have killed have no real meaning, just as the one in the other country has said that those ones that he has killed had lost their meaning? Do you understand what kind of a world you are completing when you behave in this manner? Do you understand that you have become a part of a circle of life that you denounced just a short time ago? Do you recognize that as you move forth in your life, both you and they share the same patterns of existence? For, in your actions you have demonstrated that you and they are one and the same. And in your hatred, you have merged yourself with this one, for, when you behave in the same manner, you link, and an energy-bond is formed. Angel.
Same page continued: I would ask that you perform a lesson for yourself. Tomorrow morning, upon awakening, sit briefly and consider your day. Pay attention to each aspect of that day as it is traversed. If at any time you look outward and find something that you consider to be disgusting or abhorrent--anything at all that brings to you feelings of ill-worth for another--note it, and then give thought to yourself. Ask yourself if there is anything in your own life--even the smallest thing--that you may look at and see the likeness of that which you have just condemned. If you are totally honest as you begin to view your own life and your own actions, and if you understand before you begin that you are only a member of this Earth community and that all life forms have the same worth as yourself, then you will begin to see the truth of how you behave in your world. This is the first step in learning to recognize the circular patterns of life. For, until you become totally aware of your own worrisome tendency to judge another and then free yourself of the same condemnation even as you behave in the same manner and continue the same patterns, you will only find yourself involved in more troublesome and painful problems. We will now discuss the ways in which these problems manifest in your life, and what it means. For, though you may feel that life comes to you from a place outside yourself and that you have no influence at all upon it, I tell you now that this is an absolutely erroneous thought. For, not only do you tremendously infuluence your life, but you are also directly responsible for what transpires in that life. Please do not feel that what I mean is that the many things that bring you such terrible pain is the direct result of your own desires, for, we must go much deeper than that. I would not say to you that, because you were beaten on the street and your money was stolen, this was something you had desired or something that you had brought on by your own foolish actions. I do not intend to propogate such thinking because it would not be a positive way to approach this. And even if it were true--and it is not true in that sense--we would not dwell upon such a thing, for, it tends to leave a person feeling helpless and hopeless with nothing to fall back upon. Feel no guilt for your life. Feel no guilt for the things that you have at this moment, for, this is the beginning. Today is the day you begin, and you need feel no responsibility for the past. You need feel no guilt for anything that has transpired. Look only at the moment. Look only at today because today is the only place where the rebirthing of your own awareness can take place. It is a wondrous thing, this life that you live here upon the planet. But you have felt unable to better yourself, or to bring your Earth to a heightened state, for your own betterment as well as hers. Therefore, it is important that we start at the very beginning--from within you. It is important that we begin by looking at your everyday activities, and the way in which you yourself respond to all of the things around you. From this moment on, begin to prepare for a journey. It will be an inward journey into your very soul. Do not be afraid. Please offer this to yourself, for, it is a beginning for you. It is a beginning to a beautiful and wondrous time in which you are going to find yourself living a more fulfilling and grateful life than you have been living in the past. Life comes and goes, it seems. And for you, life will continue to appear this way until you take this jouney--this look inside yourself. Angel.
3 rules of channeling a message or information. 1. ] Do not self aggrandize, or put your self on a pedestal. To put yourself above others with false pride dis-honors the whole and the message given. 2.] Acknowledge your part in the message. Who you are, your integrity or lack of, and your perception are the filters a message comes through. To ask people to be gullible and just accept everything you say as “THE TRUTH” is cult mentality and makes you appear to be fishing for followers. 3. ] Come from a place of respect, compassion, and openness. Get beyond the ego. To play the false humbleness…”I do not understand. or poor me” wounds the one giving the message as well as those hearing the message. This also means the one channeling must come clean on where and who they are getting the message from that they are giving. {{{{Any true and enlightened Being will not hide who they are or the reason for the message they are giving.}}} There is an old saying that says give a person enough rope and eventually they will hang themselves. This means that if a person hides behind their fears, self aggrandizements, and ego they eventually will be found. Storch...Please review the forum guide lines. As Moderator I have come close to closing this thread because you seem to be cutting and pasting and baiting...fishing for followers. You seem to want only your opinion glorified. Just because someone does not agree with You does not mean they are wrong or less worthy than you are to voice their perception. When one opens to channeling a message or information for more than yourself, the one channeling MUST accept accountability and responsability for their part in how they delivered and recieved the message and information they have given. Secrecy is not an option and shows no respect.
old crone, I did not know that posting this equates to self-aggrandizement. And if you are going to hold my right to privacy against me, calling it hiding, I think you need to consider what you're asking. In fact, what is it you want to know, specifically? Please post what it was that convinced you that I was "fishing for followers." No where did I "fish for followers." Also, I copied and pasted nothing but my own material in this thread after typing it on one of my document files. I did not know that wasn't allowed. And please point out to me where someone disagreed with me here, and I made them feel less worthy. That did not happen.
And nowhere did I ask people to be gullible and just accept everything that was said as “THE TRUTH.” Show me where this was said, if you would. It was not said. Why did you knowingly misrepresent me?? And yes, there is an old saying that states that if you give a person enough rope, they'll eventually hang themselves, meaning they will be found out. I have no problem with that statement. But no matter. I won't post any more.
while two is ping pong seems three is enough to make a circle . i thought Angel's portrayal of Earth Mother's planetary voice to be the feeling of pathos , helplessness and hope . this does not relate to my experience . creation speaks a power vibe that touches me to the bone , but just now and then , if only three times in my life i'll think that beez alot and plenty uv blessing .
If you disagree with what has been written, and it is not what you see or experience, that's ok. But it seems to have a ring of truth to my ears. I suspect that you and I have differing ideas as to what the Gulf oil spill, the Japan nuclear disaster, etc. means to the planet.
i may think the channeling is a literary work , and that the ideas are the writer's own . in the writings you present , the voice of Earth Mother is inventive and actually rather intriguing . i'm not being all that disagreeable . can't you see i assert passion ? Old Crone does that also . sometimes , i might fool around and channel an Alien . it always goes like this : Alien , what are you ? a creature of light Cool . Any knowledge you'ld care to share ? sure . here goes ...qphy8euiu`2rn....... but it's quite beyond me . it's best i live a long long time to ever understand it . i'll not be disrespectful of hope . have you , Storch , done all the Angel has directed ? been Re-birthed ?
As far as doing all that the angel has directed, I do the best that I can. What more can a person do? It is not required that you believe it is an angel. Or, if you feel that the message is of a dark or mischievious nature, I'd be interested in hearing why. But again, I look at the Gulf oil-leak and nuclear meltdowns, and what they mean to the planet differently than you, I think. You have described yourself as someone who sometimes fools around and channel's aliens. The author of this material has long since left those days of . . . practice behind her, as have I. She worked with this being for about two years before channelling Circles.
Tikoo, You asked if I have been re-birthed. I assume you are referring to this passage: Look only at the moment. Look only at today because today is the only place where the rebirthing of your own awareness can take place. The term "rebirthing" was used in reference to awareness, not a person.
old crone, I need to know something. You said that you had come close to closing this thread because I seem to be cutting and pasting and baiting--fishing for followers--and that I seem to want only my opinion glorified. However, I had made it perfectly clear that this material was transcribed from cassette-tape to hard copy by myself eighteen years ago, and that I am now typing it out onto my documents and copying and pasting it onto this thread. It does not contain my opinion, much less glorify it. So, my question is this: Is there anything wrong with posting what I am posting? It is nothing more and nothing less than an offering for those seeking, as the forum description says, info or contacts beyond this plane . . . If you don't like what's being said, just say so. It's ok to disagree. And if you want, we can go further into those issues of contention, and we can research any statements or ideas you hold suspect to find out if there's any truth to them. That is the best way to determine the integrity of a message. And I am perfectly willing to discuss any part of what has been written with anyone who cares to discuss it. As you have just seen, I was more than happy to answer Tikoo's question concerning my re-birth. And I was happy to answer it in the same non-ridiculing spirit in which it was asked. So, I need to know which forum rule applies to my posting more of the material.
Storch Suggestion: These types and length of writings you are doing { according to foum guide lines} would better be preserved in Your personal forum. If you do not have a personal forum then you might want to consider setting up one. I will be happy to move this entire thread to Your Personal forum. I will not pick through your writings and reply's, repeating them here, and only ask you re-read them. You are very aware of what you have said. Your writings and reply’s speak for themselves. The Integrity and Respect with which we live our lives will reflect in any writings we do. On another note: When a message is channeled one does not need to defend the message, or the messanger and demand others understand the message as they do. This destroys the purpose of the message and the meaning of the message itself. There are many forms and types of communication. If we all came from truth, love, and respect for one another wholeness would grow.
old crone, You accused me of being intolerant of others in this thread. I challenged you to show me where you saw this. I asked you to be specific. You're not resoponding to the question, again. I know you understand the question. I, too, believe that the Integrity and Respect with which we live our lives will reflect in any writings we do. That is so true! And it is also reflected in decisions we make concerning giving account for accusations made, yet unsubstantiated. Where did I demand that others understand the message as I do? On the matter of defending the material, are you suggesting that I ignore posters who have questions about it?
But yeah, I'll start a blog where I can just type the whole thing out for all to see . . . elsewhere.
one time i think Earth Mother had a seagull poop on my girlfriend's head so she'd shut up and quit nagging . i feel well-protected . The angel asks : How will she behave ? What will she do ?
