Cia Torture: A Stain On Our Values And History

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  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

    The US Senate Intelligence Committee released it's report on CIA Torture related to the War on Terror.

    It had nothing good to say about the actions and policies of the CIA.

    The report states that "no actionable intelligence" that wasn't already available from other sources was obtained from all the torture inflicted by the CIA in detention centers around the world. In fact the torture often yielded misinformation. People were held and tortured in deplorable dungeons, some without any valid reason.

    In addition, the report indicates that essential information about the nature and extent of the Enhanced Interrogation Techniques (EITs) was withheld from Secretary of State Colin Powell and President G.W. Bush. Vice President Dick Cheney was not mentioned in this regard.

    Senator Dianne Feinstein, chairwoman of the Intelligence Committee, who was also not fully briefed on the EITs, gave the summary on live TV. She seemed furious that the heads of the CIA had outright lied to her committee. She described the CIA's actions as "a stain on our values and history."

    In response to release of the report, Senator John McCain gave an impassioned speech SUPPORTING the release of the report and condemning the use of torture by the CIA. McCain, himself once a prisoner and a victim of torture, was eloquent, pointing out how the CIA had subverted America's most cherished values, specifically "inalienable" human rights.

    McCain's speech is likely to make it more difficult for defenders of torture, like Dick Cheney to sway other conservatives, especially when framed in such patriotic terms, by the "patriot" John McCain.

    Seeming to accept responsibility, before the release of the report, Dick Cheney said:
    "The program was authorized....If I had to do it over again, I would do it."
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    The report's release was somewhat rushed, and came about despite delaying tactics by Republicans and the White House.
    The upcoming Republican controlled Senate would not have released this report.

    If anything, the report is a good thing as it now sets a public standard of accountability for the CIA and US government regarding the use of torture and rights of detainees.

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  2. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

    "The US Senate Intelligence Committee released it's report on CIA Torture related to the War on Terror."

    There are many methods of interrogation, the degree and methodology may differ and "developed" through the years - but it all boils down to a form of torture, be it Mental, Physical or Chemical being employed.
    These are not down to a single country (or agency), but to many
    The justification is subjective to ones ideology and doctrine, urgency and/or consequence (of in-action)
    It has, is and will always be - that is the ways of things - and as so all one can do is be transparent in it's employment of such - that way there can be a degree of accountability - and perhaps; it may be argued, ... deterrent (?)

    The US Senate Intelligence Committee released it's report on CIA Torture related to the War on Terror.
     
  3. Into the Toilet

    Into the Toilet Members

    War on Terror?

    That supposed war the U.S.A is being doing for the last 15 years was always a scam to get limited resources and geopolitical advantages, but escalated to a mass crime when I saw a report saying was legible since the Twin Towers to drone a crowd to kill one target if everyone in that crowd had at least 12 years old.

    The excuse they used was war on terror, and now U.S.A is scattered around the globe supporting financially and militarily mercenaries to dethrone legitimate governments and create civil wars. I don't argue the mechanisms they use, I argue the propaganda they transmit internationally on payed/controlled media to turn the victims into the victimizers, turning reality totally upside down.
     
  4. its not just the US, britain has its hands covered in blood and human rights abuse. How do you make a person hate a person? you take way the humanity of the person your getting them to hate and create a monester than is threating their lives. which is what be done for so long
     
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  5. Spagelo

    Spagelo Members

    If there's any hope for the CIA, it lies in tearing it down and building something else.

    As it is now, it disgraces the government with a reputation for dragging the constitution through the dirt by committing heinous crimes, and having garbage information to show for it. It's like a Schutzstaffel that isn't even competent enough to accomplish oppression.
     
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  6. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

    Does anyone really think we are getting an honest story about all of this? There's no way we can expect it, especially with the CIA. Anything we're seeing about them was leaked intentionally and with purpose.
     
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  7. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

     
  8. Lodog

    Lodog ¿

    Bush, Cheney, Rumsey, Obama, Biden, and Hillary were all found guilty of torture.

    The craziest thing the report came out on the same day the Boston bombings happened. What are the odds!!

    You can see information at www.detaineetaskforce.org
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    What's even crazier I think is people actually believing that hostages sat there patiently with food, cookies and milk...
     
  10. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    No, they're held in chains, water boarded, loaded onto planes in 'rendition' flights and flown to countries (including the U.S. itself) who disrespect 'Human Rights' and held without access to legal representation and detained for years/decades without trial.

    An appalling indictment of the CIA and the American justice system.
     
  11. How come you never hear anything from those detainees nowadays though?
     
  12. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter


    Because they're still in detention, in communicado, without legal charge, without legal representation in Guantanamo
     

  13. Every single one of them? And it wasn't just Guantanamo CIA had these places

    And we are going back a good near 30 years now
     
  14. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Didn't I say 'rendition flights' - idjit !!!
     
  15. Be good if you could not down half a bottle of brandy everytime you come here
     
  16. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Be good if you could actually read posts before posting ridiculous comments !!!
     
  17. I will ask the question again

    Why don't we hear from any of them?

    They can't still all be in detention, every single one of them, especially just because you say so
     
  18. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter


    Google is your friend - took me all of 5 seconds to locate this !!!

    List of Guantanamo Bay detainees - Wikipedia
     
  19. I will ask the question for the third time

    Why don't we hear from any of them?

    I don't need a list of their names. That doesn't answer the question
     
  20. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter


    A few of them, on release, did issue proceedings in the court for wrongful arrest and false detention.

    Begg and other British citizens who had been detained at Guantanamo later sued the British government for complicity in their alleged abuse and torture while in US custody. In November 2010, the British Government announced an out-of-court financial settlement with 16 detainees, including Begg.
     

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