I didn't claim all you said just that portion of what you did say. Is there some way you would like to modify that statement? You are the one making the case.
Like I said approx' twelve times in eight different ways: I wanted to know what YOU considered a chemtrail/cloud to be. NOT what was within those forums etc. The links I did look at had e.g's, yes. But NOT anything YOU directly pointed to as a chemtrail/cloud. And yes I do know there are weather experiments going on. If you want a government to go plodding through nearly three million results and respond to everything posted (every e.g given) you will be waiting a very long time. IMHO, many of the e.g's were from commercial airliners, and some were calling those chemtrails (in other words pollution)... It wasn't always clear what a lot of them were pissed off about. Polution. Secret experiments (not that secret if they are over our heads) Or something else. Perhaps you didn't want to be attached to one particular e.g, so you just preferred to tell me to do my own research (presumably this includes mind reading, too) I have already looked at far to many chemtrail sites - so I know what other people claim them to be and in some cases where they are supposed to be. A lot seemed to be really talking about ever increasing pollution generated by airliners - which is fair enough. I do think you made this all a lot more complicated than it had to be. I didn't even want to talk about bleedin' chemtrails...
Why don't you email them questions or/and read their faq's? That isn't what 90% of what are being described as chemtrails. If you want to know what is within the e.g you give - the answers are there.
If you didn't want to talk about the conspiracy of chemtrails, then why did you? Strike that, I withdraw the question. You can think what you want. As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who has made it more complicated than it had to be .. something you're prone to do, in just about every discussion you get into. Example? Correcting Balbus and telling Balbus how you expect information to be presented to you, and what you don't approve of. lol
I did because I was trying to fit what you raised into the point I raised - even though it wasn't that relevant. As with Balbus, I thought it a good Idea for it to be a little more clear what the point is. I think I helped the thread find its feet - regardless of how hectoring I may or may not have been. My posts didn't stop either of you responding in that thread. With Balbus we got somewhere in the end. With you we got nowhere. You said: 'I believe that it is the responsibility, duty and obligation for "the government" to answer to the people and inform, intelligibly (in a language anyone can understand), just what exactly those chemtrails are.' I think YOUR e.g (that I quoted above) pretty much provided the answers you wanted: who, where, when and how. http://www.weathermodification.org/projectlocations.php
I expected you'd give yourself as much credit. I don't see it your way, but that's quite alright. Weather modification is a basis of proof and evidence of weather modification. It's relevant. I've also made point of the fact that human beings test nuclear weapons and in that, it is not out of the question that chemtrails - not contrails, those are different - are a reality. Lacking ready (authoritative) information about what chemtrails are is precisely what makes them a "conspiracy". Odon, this is basic, simple thought. You seem to want ME to provide that precise, exact information about what chemtrails are. Again, I refer to 2.9 million google search results. In case you haven't realized it yet, there is a sizable portion of world population who would like to be properly informed as to what those chemtrails are and what their purpose is. Since world governments are responsible, it is their obligation and duty to inform people (and it is our right to know). It isn't that private citizens are spraying, and the government has to investigate those people and some phenomenon. It is the government itself who is doing it. See the difference?
circular logic is circular. beyond human society itself, reality is not very impressed by what people want to believe, no matter how many nor what percent of them do so.
wasn't there a movie about guys staring at goats or something? thing is, they already had the ultimate mind control tool. its called television.
It started with radio. Yea, it is an effective mind control technique, but, there's much more that applies. Government has made people accept tyranny, through a fabricated idea, that they are morally superior to everyone.
I think StpLSD is a CIA operative assigned to spread this asinine bullshit around to muddy the waters and provide distraction.
Oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense, considering I am opposed to Government Force. But yeah, I'm a "Cia operative." I believe you're just mad, because I show how Liberalism is infact the acceptance of Government, and all the violence therein. You're just too ignorant to look into the facts of reality. This is why you have these distorted views of me being a Government Operative, when my views are totally opposed to the tyrannical Government we have; Liberalism, is BEGGING the Government to take away our freedom. So, you Liberals are much closer to Government Operatives than me. The best case scenerio, you are defending an institution of violence, which keeps a small group of men at the top, while, the rest of us suffer. Liberalism does not stop the underlying problems.
Who killed the Kennedys? Martin L. King? Liberals, I suppose. Who started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Yup. Liberals. Who almost ruined the worldwide economy? Oh, those damn liberals again. Who voted against SS when it was proposed. Why, those dirty #%** liberals. Who voted against equal rights for women? Oh man!! I hate those guys! Who--aw never mind. I just can't say the word lib----again. Please. Please. Please trust the conservatives. It's only right after all the damage ------- do.
Maybe If you stopped throwing around cliches and accusation maybe you would not have to try and defend your own position. #stopbeingahypocrite
The Government and, the Cia. Yes, many Liberals and Democrats did vote for the war, INCLUDING The Liberal idol, Hillary R. Clinton... and, who is trying to start war with africa, syria and, bombed Libya?? The Liberal/ Democratic idol, Barrack Obama. Both, Dems and cons, who have stolen our money, in order to perpetuate their wealth, and, their buddies wealth. It's not ONLY Conservatives, as you Liberals have been brainwashed to think. Democrats and Liberal politicians, believe in the same exact concept of Government being above everyone else. Social Security is nothing but an even greater tax, which only makes the Government even richer. You Liberals think stealing from the people is fine,as long as you have some type of "Humanitarian" excuse to do it. When in reality, people pay into SS their whole life, and many of those people are denied their own money. Moreover, SS is stockpiling Guns and ammo, while, Liberals Fight Tooth and nail, for Government to take away the 2nd amendment. You Liberals are a bunch of brainwashed Drones... "Equal Rights" is a joke. The "Right" Liberals fight for, is a false "Right" tha t allows women to murder a child, due to inconvenience. Liberals talk about how Women "make less money" than their male counterparts, but you don't include pregnancy, which would account for them making a little less, but, they are using that time, to create something much more valuable than working... Obama has killed innocent people, taken away our Rights and freedom rapidly and, even fought for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial. I didn't say "trust the Conservatives" But, to sit here and act like Democrats are "better" or, not as bad, is a crock of shit. Democrats are the same exact thing, and it is utter ignorance imo, that you believe they are the "good guys." That's where the ignorance in Liberalism lies- believing the Government should police everyone, and it is morally acceptable to haae a criminal racket which is above the law. Shame on you ignorant closed-minded Liberals... Your "answer" your conclusion, is the problem. There is no true peace, through force and violence. I only hope (for your own sake) that you snap out of the propaganda...
STP, thanks for the neg rep. But seriously, get some help, you are in desperate need of it. And why is any and all who disagree with you or simply recognize that you are without a doubt bat-shit fucking insane, are all "Liberals"? Guess it's just part of the overly paranoid, pseudo hippy burnout syndrome you suffer from. oh, in case you missed it, this is the reaction your posts usually get; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e04KEmsAc8k"]Tom Hanks laughs at you for 30 seconds. - YouTube
liberals? liberals having to going along with 'conservatives' to get anything done, because "conservative" organized crime controls all the money. there is no ideology worth a dam, and certainly none worth killing anyone over, nor religious belief either, but the worst abuse of all, is punishing and killing people for refusing to lie to themselves. this is generally refered to as fascism, which is the extreme of capitalisim. of course the people who believe those claims stated by scratcho, do so because of the real government (and not JUST u.s. government) "mind control", which is called television in particular and corporate media in general. of course as chomsky points out, this isn't even good capitalism, and it isn't intelligent markets either. and i think government here means government usurped by corporate economics. government of by and for the feudalistic dollar, not the majority will of actual living organic people.