Church of the Good Earth 1963 and Beyond

Now Kennykins, you yourself have been less then kind to some folks for the same thing.

If someone knew of Dawn before it would be different.

I was not trying to hurt her feelings. Like you protecting The Book but saw no reason to be skeptal when Dawn said she was writing a book, like Saro did and got blasted out of the forum.

If there was concern then it needs to be addressed. We addressed it. Now it's out in the open and Dawn Marie did what she was suppose to do. No One is mad at her nor have any grudge against her. No One has yelled at her or anything like that.

 

Cool. I'm with you on that.
It's probably about time that this got push to the fore. (meaning the front)
Anyway.

Just because it's not important to me doesn't mean that it might not be important to someone else. And of course that's cool. Folks have the right to know stuff.

To me it's not an issue. It's just new friends on the web that I've yet to meet in person. To me that's the whole web. Everybody.

I guess that I can't fault others for having some kind of concern. It is what it is. Everybody is sitting someplace. The views vary with the vantage points.

 

Yeah, but Saro really was up to something.

 

I'm on your side!
Me and you against everybody. What a TEAM!

 

Thank you Kenny. God it does hurt to think he never mentioned me...why? I was beautiful. I have to think he thought of me during those years. Hope looked so much like me as a baby, could he not look at her and not think of me? I know he trusted me cause he sent Obadiah to me when he couldn't keep him anymore...was my mom as awful then as now? Yes I don't think anyone meant to be hurtful, but they were...but somehow I made many wary I don't know why but its ok. The hurt comes from something they know nothing about. My Dad (George) was married to my mom for 33 years (stubborn man) and after he remarried would not answer our calls. Last year Duane and I flew to Florida to get some answers. I asked him to his face 'Do you love me?' he said no. My whole life I was afraid of the stupidest thing....at that moment I realized that my biggest fear was that my father wouldn't love me....Now that it was true my choice was clear....I am not going to be afraid anymore. Part of why I am riding across the USA and A friend is bring me up in his tiny plane.

THERE WAS NO BULLSHIT USE OF MARY'S NAME....they happen to have the same name and the same birth date.

Boogie knows who I am...doubt he cares but also doubt he would mind questions.

The picture I posted of Cyril and Obadiah is not a newspaper clipping....

I am writing 3 books.....#1 is about My daughter Samantha...poems, essays and illustrations my friend is helping me and it has nothing to do with you all. #2 Is hand writen in a very large journal and it is every love letter or note written on a napkin between my husband and I together for 31 years. I want it published when it is finished and have put instructions in with all my wishes at my passing. #3 is letters, essays,poems and stories about my life and family.....parents aunts and uncles....siblings and children....this I started so my kids and their kids will have stories about where they come from. Stories about Cyril will and are in it but this is all personal not commercial.
I even called my mother...she doesn't remember much...she says the woman with long hair was either Judy or Kate and she thinks Dionna (Dink) stayed with you all...

Anyrate I can't get to a scanner until Thursday...

 

Truly Loving yourself is True Freedom.

 

“The secret of happiness is freedom. The secret of freedom is courage.”

 

I dont think a BC is needed Dawn, really, I feel bad enough about it as it is. I do not want to hurt you. I do not want to alianate you either.

I am just the messenger.

 

I must addmit that the name and BD thing did rattle me a bit and why I was asking questions.

 

yea...I could tell that was about the time tones changed...really like I said the hurt was from thinking that yet another 'Father' didn't love me....but Cyril did and even better he liked me. Hey he was a lousy father but he had a good heart amazing eyes and I have learned he was a good friend. I am still mad he didn't tell his friend about me. lol but I will get over it!..no harm done.

I am still looking for those other poems of his and one of his prints and I am sure if I cleaned out my studio I will find them....I leave for AZ in May you will have copies by then. They are mine to give to you to use if you wish and I will be buying 7 books!

 

lastly...posting all this was a good idea...everything is better in the light!

 

Dawn Marie,

I am happy to see that you are made outta good stuff. I am a firm believer in The Light for without it there is only darkness and uncertainty.

I do not believe that you are here to bring us harm. We all have things we carry from the past, we have all made shady decissions at sometime or the other in our lives. I cannot judge Souls but am free to judge motives.

Kenny thinks me paranoid and that I may be. I call it cautious, I call it watching the back of my family. It's my responsiblity, as I opened this forum to bring that Family together.

I am sure, with my mouth and temper that I have pissed off more than a few. It would not surprize me if there were retaliation attemps to ring my bell. I am aware that my personality can be somewhat difficult to fathom at times but I do mean well in my more lucid moments

lovins
cakes

 

Mary,
When Kenny said that you all spend to much time on Face Book it occurred to me that you might have a Good Earth page as well as the forum. Crap I guess you do....so last night I lurked and discovered that little ol' me has raised a lot of questions LOL these as you know are just a few

Ranger talked to Steven and Steven knows nothing about a child of Cyrils named Dawn Marie.. All of Cyril's kids were named Cyril the ggirl Cyrilla, why is this one not a cyril too but a Dawn Marie. Seems Cyril's art was popular and when he died he had a Gallery. Boogie was overseer to Cyril's estate and in comes Dawn Marie looking for Boogie and Cyrils paintings.. hummm what does that sound like to y'all

Hey I just thought of something.. Dawn Marie seems to be interested in Cyrils Paintings..perhaps that is her game to locate Cyrils paintings to cash in on them.... am I paranoid..lol
I think I will just flat out ask her WTF is going on and what her game is. If she is after $$ from Cyril's estate then she will have to prove who she is to get any of it, if there is anything to be had. If she is indeed Cyril's Baby Girl then she is intiltiled to her part.

Mary, I saw your post on Hip and I think you misunderstood some info. Macrame Linda was not Boogie's mother. She had a little boy and died when he was only a few months old in 1975. Her folks came out from Nebraska and took him home with them. Been reading this woman's posts and she's off on some of her facts, but only a little. Still enough though for everything to not quite add up. And that B&W photo is a mystery to me as the location goes. Definitely NOT The Hole In The Wall. That skinny kid sure looks like Cyril however.

Mary, I looked at that picture and she says it's from 1999. I don't think Cyril was in S.F. then. I left in 77 and he was gone by then back to Col. Does anyone know of his return in later years?

It's not SF.... except maybe to visit family I don't think he ever lived there again
I already knew that Boogies mother was an illegal who gave Boogie (I consider him my brother but there is no blood relation) to him...I am assuming that your friend Linda had a boy with Cyril, and if so loosing someone he loved and a child must have hurt him beyond anything I could imagine. the photo was black and white because that is the way I took it...the location was his studio in Denver. It was 1999...the kid is his son Obadiah

Cyril named his boys Cyril...Nancy's girls are Hope N Faith and Heather Malynn.... Kaniah had Cyril Youngblood and Ohanah... these children you all would know he also had Jasmin in 1977, Obadiah in 1986 and finally Cyrilla in 1987 she is the only one I am aware of named Cyrilla....but it is rumored he had 13 more.

I wasn't ever looking for Boogie I was looking for Nate who I had lost touch with I know where Boogie is...spent sometime with him in Boulder when Cyril had him and I over...then He was at my graduation...then the funeral...Cyril had two living brothers, a mother and a bunch of kids....he was not overseer to any estate.. I could be very wrong here but I doubt it .
Grandma gave Obie his bracelet which I kept for him until he turned 25. Steven (Boogie) told me that he had had it since he was a teenager except for his art that was all there was. Cyril did die in his studio but it was the back room of an Art Gallery/ coffee shop the owner let him live in and his bed was a mat next to the john. He was happy...he had a grant to teach at risk kids art...he was proud of himself that he was down to a pint a day...he was clean. I would like some of his art because I am his daughter...I never asked that any be given to me always said I would buy any.

You are one of my Face Book friends haven't you checked for my mother? Her birthday is there....I may not like my mother but one is enough...it was nothing...she's not even the only Mary Elizabeth I've met before you. I gave you access to my pictures and blogs....my friend list showed you who were my sibs and that Cyril Obadiah was my son.
I don't mind answering questions...I am a stay at home Mom with no babies left at home...pick my brain glean what you need...I still want to know about Cyril and my 'legacy' Tell everyone they can ask openly or in private.

Dawn Marie : ) :

 

I figured you would stumble upon the GE thingy in fb. I did not open that one, Spud (danny) did. I do go there to keep current on The Talk lol..

Like I told ya, it wasnt just the name but the combination of name and birthdate. You have to admitt that it would given you cause to investigate if it had been you.

I wasnt trying to hide anything, it's an open group and everyone can see what's in there.

I thought it was refreshing that everyone came together on SOMETHING!!!

We take care of eachother Dawn. We're senior citizens and a lot of us are vunerable to attack. When we ban together we are strong. That was what being a family is all about.

 

BTW, I do not see why you cant post in the other place too. Let ppl know you and get to know them

 

I sent a request to join the group...It was 2 am when I did...will see I am hoping there won't be a problem but they all ready don't trust me...Ranger pm'd that maybe Cyril was just trying to protect his family when he never mentioned me....It was a different time.

I trust everyone...never lock anything (Can't ever find the keys)...figure if you really need it take it. Mind you I am not that sweet mostly lazy! My husband tries to tell me that not everyone speaks Dawn Marie so I am used to people just not quite getting me.

Your right the Dawn Marie conversations were 'refreshing' I did enjoy reading them and have no bad feelings... We all knew Cyril at different times I would love to just get the whole story....
“The strong must protect the Sweet.” Homer Simpson

 

I am so hoping that I can meet Ranger and Kenny while in AZ this May...

 

You will.

 

COOL!!!! I feel like a little kid I will be there eary to learn how to ride the scooter....I rode on the back of a lot of Bikes B.C. (before kids) and I am just blond enough too think I can learn in a hr or so....then take a practice trip to Prescott (100 miles?)

Duane said he would take me too....or whatever:auto:

 

FYI current hair color....dark brown with blue streaks!