Church of the Good Earth 1963 and Beyond

Aug. 14, 2011

Next you posted this forum page 310:

Book

Still awaiting the site and where to send my contribution.

This is gonna heat things up.

 

Ranger e-mailed me, on 8-14-2011:


FaceBook Picture of of 24 year-old-blond chick

Queenie Makulit...<email address deleted>

Hi Ranger, would you please send me the secret site for the book. I have some stuff to add. Damn I wish we could track down that newspaper article about the Good Earth with Billy Vega and his big brown hat hanging out of one of the house windows!!! I promise to keep the site a secret I will be moving to the Philippines to live as we bought a house just outside of Lucena City in view of the mystical mountain Banahaw. My husband has incurable cancer. I hope he lives forever but if not, I will probably start a commune when he's gone.Love to you both (fond memories)Saro

Ranger:
KENNY....she's part of the Billy Vega/Grandberry and Harmonica Leoy branch of the family.

 

You sent me this Private Message on this forum on 8-14-2011, at 4:02, p.m.

Red Flag Vibe.

Title:
Book

Hi Kenny,

Not sure if Ranger sent you a message about my desire to contribute to the book. He said he was going to as I had some difficulty with the forum yesterday.

My private email is : Email Address Deleted.

I'm dying to read what other have written. Might enable me to remember some names.

Saro Genova

 

I saw your messages the next morning.

On 8-15-2011 at 5:32 a.m. I post a response right beneath your post on forum page 310.

I wrote what I thought was a rather polite and business like note trying to explain things.

Here, I in point of fact, told you Flat Out that I was e-mailing back and forth with the others, in regard to you! The very same folks that are here online.

Title
Saro

Hey Saro,

I kind'o have to get every writer's permission and clearance before anybody hands out the Secret web local. It's a matter of each person's property, and copyright issues. Security. So, I've been e-mailing the others, in the background, here. Asking each person, who knows you, and how close?

Like, I remember the name Saro, but I'm not sure that I ever met you. My picture is on My "View Public Profile" Click the Word "Scorpio Kenny" and you'll see that.

So, tell me about you. Jog our memories. 'Cause having unprotected property placed in your hands would naturally involve a bit of knowledge and a bit of trust, one would think. I've been handed the large responsibility making certain that everyone's long hard work is not taken and spread all over the internet for free or having there works be taken and copyrighted by a stranger. A rather heavy responsibility.

So, tell me more about you, Or who do I know very well that can totally vouch for you. Somethng like that.

Thanks for seeing this picture. Help me out here.

 

Next I wrote an e-mail to you so that I could give you my e-mail address and ways to get in touch and were to e-mail your stories.

On 8-15-2011 at 6:32:18 AM MST

I sent this e-mail addressed to you and
I always make a habit of CCing any business correspondence back to myself at my e-mail. This was also CCed out to Ranger and to Shamless Heifer. That was right at the top of this e-mail for you to read. This made the e-mail public to them both and you and me. They have the full copies of everything before I edited any further posting on the forum. Busted!

Hi Saro,

Saro Genova
E-mail Address Deleted

My e-mail is:
E-mail Address Deleted

I'm trying to figure out why your facebook picture is so very young looking if you were around in 1973 and married? You look like a kid in the picture. What's that all about?

You mentioned that you had a couple of books? Nice. Tell me about it? Titles, etc., any industry connections. Favorite printers, etc.?

If you want to join in and send stories, were going to sell e-books first and or sell pdf, then save up for the big printing job. After all expenses, saving, and taxes, profits are to be split on a person by person per page division of the total number of pages of the book. A page amount is in layout, two column, in 12 point Warnock Pro, with 13 point vertical spacing, on 8 and a half by 11 inch page layout. We do layout / editing for a living around here.
The the share count would be simple. If it were a 500 page book, then 5 pages in layout would equal 1% (1/one hundredth of the profits.) 20 pages = 4%. Pretty simple. Pictures used, same thing, column inch.

If you want to do tales, there's my e-mail. Any questions? Just call.

I can't give out web access right now because I am waiting for clearance from all other the other authors first. See my message to you on the forum page for details.

Thanks, Smiles to you,
Kenny

 

On August 15, 2011 4:07:24 PM MST

Before hand I never excluded you, or called you out, or said anything negative about you. I was polite.

You e-mailed me back.

You also publicly CCed to Ranger, Stacy, and to Rita. Not a very private e-mail, here. Everyone has there own copy to refer to. So, much for whether I Edited in down or not. What's the difference when we all have read it and have a copy of our own? I don't get what you are complaining about with editing.


This was your e-mail that had all of the pictures at the bottom. I've not included those pictures.

From your young pictures I remembered you immediately. At that point you are all cool with me. I'm perfectly okay with you. You PASSED. In fact I was on the street the very first day you and he had brought the newborn down to the Cole Street house on her very first outdoor outing, as you put it, at that time. We all gathered around you three.


Why would anyone write a perfectly nice letter to a person, that is basically asking that person for a favor, and then explode at that person in the last paragraph.
Here's a Real Red Flag.

I had written you perfectly nice clear explanation of exactly what the deal was. PROTECTING THE WRITERS PROPERTY. No one was exclusionary or had said anything nasty to you or about you.


And Also very weird and suspicious. Why are you giving me all of this back peddling information about Lana's photo. Like you were caught in something. You could have answered that in two sentences, or skipped it. Kind o fishy. But I don't really care about that part.
Like whatever.
I really wanted to hear a little more about your three books. Any normal person who is writing a book is enthusiastic about it and eager to tell everyone. Just look at us on this forum as an example of this one. Weird.

_______________________________________________


Aloha Kenny,

That photo on facebook is NOT me. There are two reasons I'm temporarily using my young 24 year old friend Lana's photo:
1. My prior facebook profile, Saro Genova has been hacked and I do not want anyone who has bad intentions to find Queenie Makulit!
2. Lana is on her young life's journey since 2008 and I have not seen her since May 2009. Funny she lived very close to where we all did in SF. And has lived in about 3 places close to where I lived in Oakland. Lana has been neglecting me, most likely because she's doing stuff she thinks I might disapprove of. So I put the photo which is actually a cartoon of Lana from about 2005 to get her attention. Sure enough, she sent me a message "Saro why do you have that horrible pic of me here?" I replied "I'm nor removing it till I hear from you-really hear from you".

Here's a few photos of me then & now. Ranger knows who I am as does Steve Stacey. I was with Billy Vega. Our daughter, Sedonia was born in SF in 1971.

You can see lots of photos of me on the old fb profile which I'm going to delete soon. I'd send you an invite but I guess you are on FB under a pseudonym.

Okay so I see it's all about being "exclusive" with regard to who gets on to the site to see what the others have written? Human nature. If you ever see your way to allow me, I will contribute my intellectual property. This is the same complaint I had with the GE in the early years. Too cliquish (is that a word? . Not everyone of course but some, yourself included. I was excited about contributing but if you feel I am not worthy to be included with "the others" you mention in your message, so be it. My karma to be ostracized I guess. Always have been even with hippies. Can't do anything about that.

Peace,

Saro Genova
Strangers & Cousins

 

Flash Back to Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:36 PM

You had e-mailed Ranger about me, the rest of this e-mail is private chic chat.

So I have to ask myself why it this pushy woman pushing to get access to a secret web space where three authors are busy reviewing there own edited and laid out stories. What is the big rush. All of the demanding access to other writers property is all going on, on the first day, 8-14-2011 within a four hour period. This isn't her work. This is beginning to become a very intense Red Flag.

You asked Ranger"
"I will indeed appreciate it if you will forward me to Scorpio Kenny as I'm all excited about the book!"

 

Fast Forward to August 16, 2011 6:37:00 AM MST

Please note that I'm already convinced that Saro is Really Saro.

But with everything that Saro seems to type All of the RED FLAGS just keep Adding UP to more and more.


Ranger e-mails me with your e-mail forwarded at the bottom of his e-mail. Whoops.


_____________________________________________


Kenny, Read the parts about Billy & Steve. This girl does know the players! LOL

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Saro <Delete>
To: Name Delete
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Saro Here

Yeah, he told me that too but I think it was that one of his ancestors rode with Pancho Villa. Billy was a chronic story teller; sure had the gift of gab but such a liar. Sedonia inherited that trait and was as good as him.
GEE, THE WHOLE FAM DAMLY IS NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS. —Thanks for the piece of information.— This doesn't seen to bode well for why SARO is in the automatic habit of back-watering with long drawn of explanations to cover her butt on such a minor things as a false picture on a Facebook page that I don't really care about. We're starting to see some questions begin to get answered here. Me thinks.

I will seek Mary Goddard and get back to you. Please give me some more info so I will know whether I have the correct person or not. Parents' names, husband's name. date of birth, date of death, where born, died & resided, etc. Then I'll get on it.

I am actually shocked about Steve being amongst the Tea Party. OMG! What is the world coming to. But then who ever thought Ron Winslow would become a Jehovah's Witness!?

*********First RED FLAG!*********
I think Kenny is quite paranoid. He does not wish me to know about the website. *********Second RED FLAG!********* He questioned who I am and the fact that I have a photo other than myself on facebook. Oh well.

Saro Genova
Strangers & Cousins

 

On August 16, 2011 12:34:32 PM MST

I received an e-mail from an (anonymous) Managing partner in this venture.


This was in Response to YOUR FULL E-mail. You Foot In Your own MOUTH. Not some shortened portion YOUR FULL E-mail.


The relevant portion:


I am of the opinion that you are protecting the rights of all for this "Book" and that it can indeed be bootlegged if on the internet for any and all to see. I do not know Saro BUT I WAS NOT G.E. and in this/her e-mail she says that she had issues in the old days with the clickishness back then....as if she may have a grudge?? BUT hey that is just the vibe I got??? Why can't she send you something like one of her tales in general where others are involved too so that you can feel good about inviting her into the flow of this thing?? If she is already talking about her karma being ?????

Well whatever she was implying by that I do not know?? One thing I do know the last thing you need is ATTITUDE. That is just my opinion, that is my feelings. Just like I do not want to EVER start conflicts or arguments so I would NEVER want to get anyone's hackles up I try to explain my thoughts in a salient fashion if there seems to be a situation that may make someone upset. That is why I tried to explain my statement about Scully. If it ain't broke why brake it!! lol

 

On August 16, 2011 12:36:04 PM MST

I wrote back to you. I felt kind of bad that you were waiting and I was still waiting for all of the opinions to get e-mail back to me. (votes, if you will)

I needed to write something to you.



Saro,

Please forgive my writing a short note to you. I have seven people to get back to today. Editing stuff. P.R. planning. Web design and coding, and my Day Job which soaks up way to much of my time.

First, thanks for your very nice letter. Yes I totally remember you from those two black and white photos, and that beautiful picture of the baby, with Billy and you. So, I'm a yes vote.

I've send your picture and stuff to the other involved writers. So, the ball is in they're court. Not everyone checks they're e-mail everyday. Could be a few day's. Sure that you understand.

I should mention that my lady and I have been doing book layout and editing for the past six years for a company. So, this it not just a dream. We can put together books.


I gave you the money info in the last email. We will all get real contract and stuff.

Mean time if you feel creative, just jump into it. You have my e-mail address. Some of the folk type in Microsoft Word and attach their story file to an e-mail and send to me. Ranger just types his tales in his e-mail window, which is fine too.

Anything you feel like sending will be copy edited on this end, and we'll e-mail you an edited copy. So, if you fell creative, go for it.




It's the oldest picture that I have of me. Probably 12 years ago. Doesn't really matter if you do or don't remember me from '73.
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/album.php?albumid=5810&pictureid=48268



I'll write you back, when I have more time. I am hoping for a yes form all authors. Either way your stories can be in the book and you'll see all, once there is a copyright is filed with the fed.


Best to you and family,
Kenny


P.S. Ranger suggests that I might ask you some kind of Test question, in order to convince everybody. But for me, that's not necessary. I know you from you pics.

his thought:

Re' Saro



Kenny,
Ask Saro a question only someone close would know. Like how did Harmonica Leroy die and where and/or have her submit a story. She's already mentioned Billy's fancy car and Zev confirmed it....
Love ya, Ranger


LOL. Hey, I don't know how Harmonica Leroy die and where! LOL. But I liked the cat.
But I would pass you response back to Ranger and he could influence the other writer at that point. If you know what I mean.

 

August 16, 2011 4:23:35 PM MST


And I was ready to do this.

Ranger e-mail me:


Kenny,
Bring her in, ask her about Leroy's death or something or have her write something, but I'm pretty sure she's her!

We may well need an executive desision maker or ex committee rather than having to pass every move amongst us all for endorsements.
Enough of this...Love ya, Ranger

 

I was always kind to you no matter what.

You were always shitty to me and accusatory and in you last posting you still are. Even though I have done nothing to you and said nothing even vaguely rude to you.

I my opinion you basically fucked yourself over with your very own words and actions. All that I did was to sit back and listen.

We gave you enough rope, as they say. And you self imploded.

It ain't me babe. -Bob Dylan

Don't fuck with Scorpios. -Kenny

 

I hope this is settled now so we can get back to writing. We all need to take a breath and let this pass on through. Clean the air, maybe a smudge is in order.

 

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lol..meow

 

Gee guys. Look what I've been missing!

I know Saro. She was one of my best friends. She was with me when I had my baby. I lived with Leroy at 1891 Page. I would like to contribute to the book as well if I'm allowed. I started to wright about the summer I was pregnant living at Page st. Does anyone remember Hazel? She had a little boy named Sun and then had another kid, a girl I think. I had a couple photos of her but can't find them.

Love Kat-Kit

 

Hi Kit,

It's Scorpio Kenny,

I'm the guy who put the nice note on your "Public Profile" space here. My pictures are in my "Public Profile" space here.

Just send me a "Private Message" here, with yer email and we'll swap email addresses and I'll hook you up with others and tell you all about the real deal book thing. This via e-mail.

My basic idea is instead of each of us struggling to write one big book, each of us could easily write a little and still end up with one big book. Faster money. Smart. And Yes You get to be a famous hippie selling your book on the Opera TV Show or someplace. Sound fun?

Just click the name Scorpio Kenny on the left there and do a Private Message. Thank. We trying to get the project some kind of secret so we try and talk real stuff by e-mail.
:sunny:

 

Cakes. About the Cheshire Cat.

The cat is guarding the secret book web space. If you can talk to him and get through him, you are in there. But I built it so that even Google programs can't find it. And the cat is Mad, so go ahead and talk with him. "We're all Mad here." See where that gets you.


The cat knows all.

(By the way, I know a film maker, and he owes me 1,300. I think that we could make a real move trailer with a part of that money.) Seriously Folks. So, type.

 

Kenny, I think you forgot to mention that I called you a paranoid egotist. You, Mr. Scorpio have dellusions of grandur!n As if you are an authority on editing and book making.

I'll just answer that the reason I answered about my photo in a paragraph (not a long answer) is because you asked and inferred that I am some kind of spy trying to get valuable stuff from some top secret site. Not. You are way off base here as I have no need to steal any of you folk's intellectual property. To jump all over me and make all sorts of hulabaloo about my asking to go on the site to read what other have written is just your paranoia raising it's absurd head. If I were intent of stealing what others have written would I have mentioned I want to read what others have written? Hardly.

In so far as you being "nice" I do not think so. Your very first message to me reeked of paranoia and accusation.

You are so full of yourself and into bragging about yourself, you JUDGE others by your own attitudes. Just because you are inclined to "talk big" does not mean that I want to share my books with you or anyone else for that matter.

I was talking to a friend yesterday who, like your anomyous message writer (who I suspect is a figment of your imagination) shall remain anomyous. This person mentioned that you have been talking about a book for a long time and they doubrt it will ever happen because you specifically are a looser who just talks and does nothing. I'm agree.

So I'm outta here with regard to any book. Don't want to fuck around with paranoid delussional scorpions. ha ha!

 

May God bless you and keep you always.