Christianity, really?

No, It will happen over a period of time.

I don't believe the soul is something other than our life as a person.

 

The soul is our life to the extent we understand it unfinished; and that exists in the world for transcending or perhaps resurrection: if the community is already at a communion.

Paradox, if the community is still organizing. Can life go backward in Time?

 

Dispersal is organization. Memory is living tissue. We don't travel through time. All time travels with us.

 

Things can get ambiguous for the realization that we truly Live with demons in the heart. Organization is involvement to a true Christian. <smiling may be hard>

 

We cultivate our friends. Communion is true involvement.

An excuse for frowning?

 

would you be willing to share them?

Edit: in mark 9, Jesus give the speech about cutting off your hand if it causes you to sin, because it is better than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

He asks the pharisies in mark how they can escape damnation.

Revelation talks about the lake of fire, that people are touchured in for eternity.

There are more verses I could list. I want to believe that the bible says what you say, but I don't see how it could.

 

The problem is I'm not sure how far you want me to go with this.

First if the Bible consisted of only the Christian Greek Scriptures, I would find it difficult not to believe in Hellfire.

The trouble is the Hebrew Scriptures, if Hellfire is in fact truth then why did God keep his people in the dark about it for thousands of years? Why didn't God tell Adam and Eve that they would not just die but burn in Hellfire for eternity? That would seem to be a important factor to tell them about, don't you think?

I believe what the whole Bible says is important to understanding the message of the Bible.


PS If you still want the scriptures let me know.

 

From what I understand, the was no hell untill the new testement, but that makes no sense. The illogical, cruel, unjust hell I'm always told about was one of the things that made me drop Christianity in the first place.

I've been reading Plato recently, and he was talking about how hades was the only option after death, which made people very hesitent to fight in wars. He then suggested that hades have a plesent alternitive for the people who die brave deaths for their country. Basicly, he invented heaven and hell about 500 years before Jesus lived as a way to control people. (that was kind of irrelevent, but it shows me what a lie the modern view of hell is.)

So yeah, I would really appretiate it if you would list some verses.

 

It is interesting to me, that a lot of "Christian" doctrine comes from the Greek philosophers and not from the Bible.

 

What does the Bible say the penalty for sin is?
Rom. 6:23: “The wages sin pays is death.”

After one’s death, is he still subject to further punishment for his sins?
Rom. 6:7: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”

Can the human soul die?
Ezek. 18:4; Matt. 10:28; Acts 3:23

What is the condition of the dead?
Eccl. 9:5; Ps. 146:4; John 11:11-14; Also Psalm 13:3

 

Do you think the lake of fire in revelation that Satan, the beast, and the false prophet are thrown into is a literal burning hell?

 

If you'll notice both death and hades (hell) are also thrown in to the same lake of fire and those can't be tortured, so it would seem that the lake of fire symbolizes the second death or permanent destruction.

 

Wow! "Symbolizes"! You're coming around!

 

I have said from the beginning of our "discussions" that the book of Revelation is mostly symbolic, I guess you haven't been listening.

 

I had thought you claimed that revelation dealt in prophecy?

 

It does that as well, there is nothing contradictory in saying the book of Revelation is both prophetic and symbolic.

 

There is a contradiction however in saying that the bible is the word of God and that work, the bible has been compiled in conjunction with the influences of men.

 

God works through men. If you think that God guided the selection of materials for the Jewish and Hebrew canons, you have an appreciation of God working through human agents. The "influences of men" can be influences of God. God didn't slip manuscripts of the Bible through some publisher's transom.

 

Surely all phenomena are Gods' work. I said Gods' word.

 

You underestimate the power of God.