Christianity: "Over and Done"

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  1. Posthumous

    Posthumous Resident Smartass

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    Seriously, stop it, Darrell. You're upsetting all the fools, especially the delusional one whom can't form a proper paragraph up there.


    That's what you get for eating the brown acid.
     
  2. darrellkitchen

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    No, what you said that I replied to was silly was you saying: campbell34: I could say that's just my perspective and let those inside die.

    Yeah ... !!!

    Right ... !!!

    Uhm ... !!!

    Sure ... !!!

    Whatever you say ... !!!


    How do you know they didn't believe in it? Did they tell you this before they died? Or are you them also, just like you're me, and you're your god?

    No, Campbell34, it won't.

    No, Campbell34, I won't. That's your belief, not mine.


    No one threw you out of any forum ... now, Campbell34, you're exagerating. And, no one is threatening you. Again, you're exagerating.

    Resorting to insulting now? Really, Campbell34. Wasn't it you who said people could come to the Christian forum and express yourself freely? I believe you did. Matter-of-fact, it's here you said that --> http://hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3221743&postcount=11

    Really now, Campbell34. You certainly do have a double-set of standards. Just like your pick-and-choose from your bible what suits you and ignore what doesn't suit you.

    So, which is it, Campbell34? Can people come here and "express their belief" or not?

    No, Jesus is not god of gods, and lord of lords. To you, and perhaps to a lot of other like-minded people who believe he is without direct experience to the truth, you would think so, and you'd have as much right to think that way. But to me, this just is not so. To me, it's your own perspective of things ... not mine. And you're right, eternity is a long time. Eternity has always been a very long time, and will continue to be so. I've been here longer than an eternity, and will be here for what would appear to be another eternity. And I have choosen wisely already.
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  3. Ikdenkhetniet

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    DarrellK, has it ever occured to you that you are exactly the reason why the whole 'hackey-sack campus american buddhist' fad now seems so gay?

    Seriously though, your so full of contempt and ego that it only goes to demonstrate why you will never be able to make yourself a pure spiritual being.
     
  4. darrellkitchen

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    You're right ... you're right ... SFF!

    It has gone on long enough.

    I grow tired of it myself ...

    However, I will not continue it in private either.

    I do believe that they both (Campbell34 and Ik) were enjoying it themselves. Perhaps all the more reason to cease.

    Yaawwwwwnnn ...
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  5. Alsharad

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    You have not perceived me at all. You have perceived your monitor's representations of electrical signals from your PC. That is all.

    In fact, you cannot prove via perception that "I". For all you know, I might be a simple AI program. More than that, I might be several different people all using the same login... Your perception cannot prove or disprove that. You can't even formulate a theory because if perception is reality, then, since you haven't perceived me, how can I be a part of your reality?

    *Sigh*
    I figured that would be your answer. You use an ad hominem attack to avoid answering my post. Either because you can't, or because you won't. In either case, it shows that you are unwilling to defend your position because you cannot/will not defend the foundational principles attached to it.

    If you cannot point out the logical flaws in someone's argument, please refrain from calling their logic "faulty". If you really can't point out the faults, you don't really have a basis for calling it faulty.
     
  6. campbell34

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    Yes Darrell people can come here and freely express their beliefs freely, I just happen to be one who believe you can do that without calling the person you are talking to a fool.

    And the encounter I had with those Demons, I still have the tape of what took place back in 1973.

    And I am not exagerating about your heavy handed tactics. That was the first time my post were ever removed from any fourm. So I would not put anything past you.

    And please tell me Darrell, what verse in the Bible have I have ignored?
     
  7. Posthumous

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    Simple indeed.
     
  8. skip

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    Ah a nice quote to get us back on topic (I hope!). No more OT posts or I'll start using my delete & ban buttons.

    I like this analogy of fire & God.

    You say fire manifests constantly (until it goes out I guess) and that God has not manifested that consistently.

    But this is only due to the fact that we do not Grok the true nature of God, just as we are unable to Grok the true nature of fire.

    If God is omnipresent (as I believe - and hope to prove someday), then it exists in everything, including fire. In fact scientists are now discovering that there are kinds of matter and energy that we cannot see that may indeed exist in everything.

    Buddhists believe ALL IS ONE at some level. These kinds of metaphysical beliefs transcend all religions because they DO NOT LIMIT reality.

    The more scientists understand about our visible and invisible universe, the more they come around to a Buddhist way of thinking about reality.

    Buddhism provides a framework for integrating new scientific discoveries. Facts that do not fit exisiting theories fit right in with a Buddhist perspective.

    Many scientists are having their faith in christianity weakened, while at the same time their understanding of reality and GOD increases. That's right. They are still moving towards a "unified field theory" that supports a belief in one God, but not necessarily the Xtian version.

    Why is this? Because as we learn more about life and death, we come to understand that there isn't any HELL or HEAVEN for that matter. We realize these things are only projections of our minds seeking to cling to a material reality.

    As scientists delve deeper into the structure of matter, they are continually amazed at how it actually has NO SUBSTANCE. It's 99.9999% space. And when the delve into that .00001% of matter they again find 99.9999% space.

    And then at the smallest levels of matter they find that our own observations affect the existence of that matter, which implies that we can only give a probability that it exists at all. In fact all of reality simply exists as a series of infinite probabilities at any given moment.

    Well guess what? This is where Karma comes in. Because in my view, Karma is the crystalization of those probabilities based upon our own mental attachments to those probabilities.

    A good example is the ongoing "debate' (which I hope is ended now) in this thread. Each of us views reality thru our own mental attachments (projections). Karma crystalizes these attachments by bringing together the probabilities so we can act out our dharma.

    This is why Xtianity is over and done. Because it cannot explain the phenomena our scientists continue to unveil. It cannot provide a theory for everything. Instead it relies on a "catch-all" like it's "god's will", which is just fine pablum for a 4 year old to hear, but completely unsatisifying for those ADULTS who seek answers.

    In fact all religions with ancient doctrines that cannot aid us in understanding the world around us (the original purpose of religion) are doing incredible damage to human knowledge and humanity itself.

    The fact is you CAN believe in GOD and creationism and Buddhism too. You just have to be REAL about it.

    Back to the flame. God is always manifesting itself, flames come and go. God creates all that exists, spontaneously, including these infinite probabilities (Lila). And when you realize just how infinite it ALL is, then you just begin to understand the true nature of God... Anything less becomes an obvious lie.
     
  9. scratcho

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    "projections of our minds seeking to cling to a material reality".----I like it.Possibly also known as the fear of death/the unknown.
     
  10. Posthumous

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    For the love of Jesus, upload this tape to youtube and give us the link so we can all partake! Please, Lord, make it so! Oh Elijah, I must see/hear this holy recording! I'm afraid my imminent conversion to Christianity may be jeopardy otherwise.
     
  11. campbell34

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    Actually Possthumous, I think people like you are only heart beat away from Hell, nothing personal, but I don't think you really care about right or wrong or God anything. If you really cared about your own soul, you would of considered the prophecies of the Bible. Yet that might require some study. There will be many in Hell who will have all eternity to think about how they wasted their time here on earth. Many will recall how they used their smart mouth on earth only later to discover that the dark realm of despair really does exist, and only then, will they understand there is no return. There are many I see today that are like the walking damned. They are alive, yet their future is so bleak.
     
  12. Posthumous

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    Yep. I knew you were talking outta your ass about having a 1973 demon tape. You know what your bible says about "Bearing False Witness." Shame on you, sinner. And won't you feel stupid when we're standing in front of "your" God and he favors me over you... smartmouth and all.
     
  13. scratcho

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    Self righteousness is not becoming to anyone.It's one of the reasons people don't like christians to proselitize.I've met some REAL ones in my life and the interesting thing is that I never knew they were christians.They just lived good and solid lives and never mentioned their particular views on existence and their place in it.They were known as decent people and I suppose that was good enough for them.I worked with and was a friend with one such man.I never met a nicer guy.He died in the prime of his life,leaving a young wife and children.Now ,if there's some reward after this physical form dissipates,I can guarantee he's there.He never said a word to me about heaven or not going to church or anything remotely like that, even though I was a wild child and a hell raiser.I can damn sure say that he would never have been so presumptuous as to tell me I was going to burn in the fires of hell if I didn't change my ways and believe as he did.So,yes there are some real christians around and my life has been better for meeting them.They live by example and if we are lucky,their natural goodness will rub off on us "sinners"and make us better people.I'll bet they were inherantly good people before they became christians.--------sorry to say I haven't seen many here.It's not my business to judge but-------
     
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    Not as bleak as your dismal outlook.
    This is also extremely judgemental - and as you may be aware, followers of Jesus, ie those who practice the teaching of Jesus, are forbidden to judge others, 'lest they should be judged'. Also don't forget 'with what measure ye mete..etc'.

    See you down there in the burning basement.
     
  15. spook13

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    The fact is, the Bible tells you most people are headed to hell, that is a Biblical fact. Wide is the the gate that leads to eternal life, FEW there be that find it.
    People judge all the time, and if your are talking about Jesus when He stated "judge not lest you should be Judged", that was the Sermon on the Mount. Do you have any idea what that Sermon was about?
     
  17. scratcho

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    Not a biblical fact--a biblical assertion.
     
  18. campbell34

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    Well Posthumous, I have not looked at these tapes for a number of years, but I would be more than happy to let you listen to them. The tapes involve a delieverence I went through Dec. 15, 1973 at 9 A.M. in the morning. This took place in a home located in Crete Il. The recordings are on two old casset tapes. I would like to make extra copies, because these are the only tapes I have. If you can supply me with an adress, ect. I would be happy to send you a copy.
     
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    Call it what you will, but in Matthew 7:13,14 Jesus Christ states, "broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT."
     
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    It was Jesus who tells us to go out into all the world and preach the Gospel. God never called us to be undercover Christians. God tells us the fields are white unto harvest, but the labourers are few. I don't care how nice you think your friend was, if he was a Christian, I guess as long as he was saved that was good enought for him. With friends like this who needs enemies. If he was a Christian, then He would of believed in Hell, and I guess if you just happen to end up there, well that's your problem right. It's a shame your good friend never took the time to tip you off about such a horrible place or even how to avoid it. So I guess if you are a real Christian, you just believe in Hell and let your friends go there. When your burning in Hell at least you can recall what a nice guy he was. Yeah, lot of good that will do you.
     
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