christianity is a dead end

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by soaringeagle, Sep 1, 2005.

  1. guest1234

    guest1234 Visitor

    Ive never felt that God controls humans, He only sets them free.
     
  2. citrus_seas

    citrus_seas Senior Member

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    Sure. Keep believing that. See how far in life that gets you. Good luck.
     
  3. guest1234

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    I havent been a christian for all my life you know, grew up with a brilliant dad who happens to be an atheist and used to be like my source of wisdom. Ive simply experienced for myself that he wasnt right, and actually felt set free.
     
  4. seahorse

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    Myrtje, you are a beautiful soul!
    wow, the attitude! So she feels set free, does that make you feel uncomfortable? I feel set free too because of GOd's love....as well as thousands of others. You should be happy for us that we have found our peace.
     
  5. citrus_seas

    citrus_seas Senior Member

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    I know...I apoligize. I hope you're happy with you're peace. I just don't have the same beliefs as you and Myrtje. I feel more at peace with the belief that everyone could maybe one day, be at peace with one another, without leaders, without gods, and maybe, on occasion, without drugs.
     
  6. seahorse

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    Yes i can see where you're coming from. Without GOd? HEh...i'd be either standing on a street corner with half my ass out or strung out in a dingy basement with a needle between my toes because I;ve ran out of veins in my arms.

    i havnt done this, have I? if i did i didnt mean to...but ask Hippylngstcking, it has something to do with judaism.
     
  7. seahorse

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    Apology accepted, and how very mature of you to say so. You may not know what this peace of ours means, because you havnt experienced it for yourself. We dont hold that against you...but i pray right now that God will reveal Himself to you like only HE can! Bless!

    you see, love, our beliefs are not really that different...cause we DO believe that everyone who has accepted Christ's sacrifice for thier sins WILL one day live in peace with one another, without leaders other than GOd, and definately without drugs LOL
     
  8. citrus_seas

    citrus_seas Senior Member

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    No thanks...I'd rather "god" just staying on his throne in that place you guys call "heaven".
     
  9. soaringeagle

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    ofcourse theres lots of prophesies in the bible that were fulfiilled, simply because those prophesies were written after the egvents they predicted
    i predict there will come a day when an idiot will run the country
    so am i all knowing now?

    the ones that werent written after the fact are so vauge almost anything could apply
     
  10. guest1234

    guest1234 Visitor

    Look i do understand where youre coming from, i understand the anti-christian, the simply atheistic and even the i-hate-God point of view perfectly. Although ive never been a real atheist - ive always had this sense of 'something more' - i didnt always believe in God. And by the time i started believing i didnt want to. It was like i knew it was the truth, but i didnt want to believe it, i didnt feel like i needed God. My mind was going in one direction, my will in the other. It took time to give up the will to run away from God, and now i can honestly say that im happier than ever and finally understand what all those christians that used to annoy me till no end were talking about. I can see from both sides, and can with all honesty say that Gods side is the better one. But im also aware that im not the one to make you see that, no christian ever converted me. What a christian can do is get you interested, get you thinking, God can only touch you, but you and you alone are the one to decide to let God in. And thats not an easy thing to do, despite what some christians might tell you. Anyway, the year in between running away and running to God was the worst year of my life, but im glad i went trough it and thats why i hope and pray you may go trough the same thing.
     
  11. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    so many have said god (oh i'm sorry, the o stands for oppression so must never be typed..g-d (is that greatful dead?)) many have said g-d fills a void or emptiness in theyre lives, the same emptiness othsers fill with alcahol or drugs or sex addictions g-d is an addiction, a crutch, maybe instead of filling the void you should try to figure out why there isa void in the first place
    i've never felt a void i needed to fill with imaginary freinds
     
  12. thumontico

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    ^^^^
     
  13. citrus_seas

    citrus_seas Senior Member

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    No thanks, i'd rather let God stay out and freeze his ass off. I'm pretty sure if he's so holy, he'll be able to get his '82 Firefly from getting it's tires stuck.
     
  14. guest1234

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    Btw, do you speak Dutch? I read on your site you were raised by dutch parents so thats why im wondering.
     
  15. guest1234

    guest1234 Visitor

    Thats of course all up to you.
     
  16. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    i'm guessing you had other traumas that year that had nothing to do with a spiritual journey?
    & wasnt it easier to just turn your will over to an imaginary freind then deal with the situation on your own?
    maybe a real freind who truly understood & accepted you would have helped huh?

    i'm not saying your weak or anything, cause i dont really know you, & you seem like one who isnt as totaly braindead like jesusdied4u & others, but i suspect its the same situation as kidswho felt lost & without purpose & turned obvver theyre will to cult leaders..its always easier in times of trouble to just stop ghinking, stop dealling with life & let someone else real or imaginary take control of your life
     
  17. guest1234

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    no actually i didnt have any traumas, it was a pretty good year. ive just always been interested in 'whats beyond', and maybe its puberty haha. i was interested in wicca, and really loved the whole pagan thing. ive an understanding mum, 2 great best friends, but really, they wont solve the universe for me. it wasnt Gods love or acceptance, or the answers to the afterlife that made me believe, it was a simple knowing i was wrong and a simple curiousity in what else is out there that made me open up to God. The love and whatever else came afterwards, and its still growing and im understanding things better bit by bit. Believing in God didnt make things easier, and got me thinking even harder.
     
  18. citrus_seas

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    I'm not sure I agree with you on this one. I think we should lead our own lives and NOT let anyone take control of it. If we did, we'd just become mindless robots. Just like most christians. OOOHHH, BURN!
     
  19. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    knowing you were wrong? or having it pounded into your head repeatedly that your a sinner if you dont accept hrist?
     
  20. guest1234

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    haha no, the sinner/savior part is something i still question. it never was about love, salvation, acceptance, or whatever when i came across God. It was me wanting to know the truth, and Gods where i got it. The problem was me accepting the truth, and when i did i started to see and experience that the truth isnt bad at all.

    If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.
    C.S. Lewis
     

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