Chorus call for New World Order

bottom line is when someone with Kissingers stature speaks of now being the time to set up "international POLITICAL regulation" perhaps people should take note because we are no longer speaking of a economic order but global political control..

 

Yes the IMF is real so is the U.N. and global elites but then people take this info and spin wide mythical tales with them.

Like the FEMA camps, wetland restoration ect.

The base of the NWO info is true, but the wild tales and speculations that come out of it are disinformation.

 

So you're saying FEMA camps and wetland restoration are myths?

In that case I guess anything is a myth. It's a myth that it's snowing outside right now. My computer screen in a myth.

Of course you're going to have disinformation as you do with ALL media sources, especially from the mainline media. It's up to the individual to scrutinze and use their own discernment to come to their OWN PERSONAL CONCLUSION.

The problem with most people with criticize so-called "conspiracy theorists" is that they lack the inability and the critical thought to look at anything outside of the box, which is automatically deemed ludicrous to them. If the media, which is owned by some of the world's biggest corportations, does not report it, well then it must not be true.

 

there was NO, ZERO,NADA, ZILCH "disinformation" or "wild tales" whatsoever in this thread yet its was moved to conspiracy and now you have went on and on about things that have never been said nor implied in this thread..

yes your 100% correct people spread disinformation and skew facts in a attempt to make it something it isnt,and it appears you are doing exactly that in this thread...

 

The snow is just from seeding the clouds so you will stay inside and be hypnotized by your computer screen that the secret ones have created to spy on you.
Just like an environmental pipe dream/Wetland Restoration is a plain to kill 90% of the people and old army infrastructure is preparing to imprison everyone and kill them like Hitler.

 

what does Kissinger calling for "international POLITICAL regulation" have to do with any of that zhiger?? making a few extra bucks contracting with the government now are we??

but seriously,who is spreading disinformation? who is taking facts and skewing them to belittle them? you are..

 

Then if these groups and individuals operated more openly and transparently instead of in secret and behind closed doors, people would not have to spin myths. We would be fully aware of their motives and given the opportunity to agree or disagree.

 

If you put "new world order" in to google you get pages and pages of mostly myths and wild speculations (a large majority of them can be traced back to alex jones)

When the thread is titled “New World Order” it brings the classic conspiracy theories to mind.

That is probably why someone moved it for the conspiracy section.

If it had been titled “A speech from Henry Kissinger” or a “Discussion of the global problems facing us” it probably wouldn’t have evoked the same kind of conspiracy discussion.

 

it didnt invoke any conspiracy discussion until you came into the discussion..

before then due to the reasons you just mentioned it was simply discounted as nonsense..

seems to me we have to call it what it is. its those in charge who have proclaimed it a "new world order" it is those in charge who started the chorus call for "a new world order"..
so we are supposed to call it something else to get people to pay attention??
if people are so narrow minded as to not exam the facts due to how a term has been skewed by wackos then they deserve what they get..

 

So now it’s my fault the thread got demoted to the conspiracy section.

What about this little statement?

I think this is what pushed it over the edge into conspiracy land.

 

Type almost anything into Google and you're going to get myths and wild speculation. It is the internet after all. Again, it's up to an informed individual to determine for themselves what to and what not to believe. Even if more than half of it is disinformation, it does not mean all of it is. There is a lot of disinformation put other there to muddy the waters, and deliberately so. Why? Because if you mix in blatant disinformation and outrageous speculation with irrefutable truths, it causes people to throw the baby out with the bathwater and reject all the information altogether. It's really one of the oldest tricks in the book. People who have done the research and read the number of books and publications I have read, many from official sources, are able to separate the wheat from the chaff. The people who reject this information simply have not done their homework and they don't want the truth. They cannot handle the truth.

Those who take everything they read and run with it are never going to understand the full truth. But neither are those who think that because some of it is bogus, that must mean all of it is, while at the same time thinking they're going to get the truth from the corporate media, which serves soley to disseminate propaganda and manipulate masses of people with scientifically-crafted techniques of control.

In other words, it goes both ways.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/19/mexican.execution.violation/index.html

OMG the US broke a treaty and ignored a UN ruling! I thought we were controlled by globalists?

 

Ah I see.. it's a conspiracy if it doesn't go along with the consensus majority. I GET IT! (I vote for the underdog)

 

umm,,texas executed the man not the federal government and according to the article you posted the bush administration was none to happy about it..

nice job of twisting facts to imply something that isnt though..:cheers2:

rest assured the executive branch gets a wee bit upset when those other two branches of government get in the way of globalization..dont you worry though a few more years and they will have that all taken care of...

 

The UN told them not to, they went ahead and did it anyway.

Bush "reluctantly" "requested" that they not do it. The Supreme Court said they could, they went ahead and did it, and now the UN complains and nothing is going to happen.

Sorry did they kill him or not? Yes.

Oh I know the end it near, its always just around the corner, the conspiracy theorists have been saying so for decades.

I'll keep an eye out for the white trucks with UN troops coming to punish us for breaking international law.

 

texas doesnt feel they have to answer to the UN,,they didnt get the new world order memo...

look i can take quotes out of context as well..

another nice try there hip...:cheers2:

 

I agree with this.
A lot of the info on the subject out there is true and realistic, but a lot of it put out is just pure unrealistic speculation that a lot of people eat up and take for religious fact.

The government spends a lot of money on convert information campaigns and a lot of people who study alternative info source eat the stuff up because they think it something against the government is thrown in there that it must not be controlled by the government.

I find a lot of the sources that the “new word order” info comes seem very shady..

And they are the same fucking stories over and over.

like they weed wack the same FEMA camp and then someone announces “oh my the have just completed building the FEMA camps”

They import shiploads of AK-47 and SKS and send it to legislation to ban them once again “ better buy now they will be gone” sales skyrocket.

In Colombia and Somaila they are probably telling the navies the same thing with a little different twist.

Then oh my we need funding these people are dangerous.

I’m not calling it all BS I am just discussing the various aspects of the info out there.

Conspiracy or standard CIA tactics ?

 

I don’t know who moved this over to conspiracy but as I pointed out earlier this was always its natural place.

There do not seem to be any rational or politically based reasons for opposing international governance been put forward beyond conspiracy theory.

This means they don’t really have an argument they just wish to close down the debate, because conspiracy theory is about trying to close down any type of open and honest debate.

Let me explain.

Political debate is based on a discussion of the differing merits of differing models.

For example a right wing supporter of nationalism might argue that a ‘peoples’ interests are best served by preserving the ‘sovereignty’ of a nation while a left winger might argue that social justice can only be achieved through international constraints on global capitalism.

It seems to me that many conspiracy theorists try to shut down such discussions, for example - someone that is pro right wing and dislikes left wing ideas but is also a conspiracy theorists has a habit of attacking left wing ideas not on there merits but by claiming that they are just an invention and tool of a secret conspiracy of the NWO, illuminati, shape shifting aliens or tooth fairies.

It doesn’t really matter who the conspirators are or even if they exist it stops being a matter of the merits of differing systems and turns into a fundamentalist crusade against evil shadows.

This means that being pro-right becomes a matter of saving the world from evil and not whether its ideas can produce beneficial social and economic change or not.

And conversely anyone that supports left wing ideas is portrayed as either a patsy for evil or is part of the evil conspiracy.

In other words the conspiracy theory trumps any open or honest political debate, it ends it.

 

Why do you think a New World Order would bring about all this social justice of which you speak.

I've learned a few things in my short life, and one of the reasons I oppose one world government is due to the amount of power it consolidates into just a few hands.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

And you may be willing to write off all conspiracy theorists as fundamentalist hotheads, with no respect for intelligent debate, but here is one conspiracy theorist who is willing to hear you on your views.

I do believe that people can be used unbeknownst to them as tools to further the agenda of unseen and powerful forces though. So I won't necessarily call you a pawn of Evil outright, at least not without listening to your stance.

 

obviously you didnt read my links on the constitutionalist and libertarian platforms..

it may be illogical to you but it certainly isnt to me..