Chorus call for New World Order

Rat

Another rant and the same old things that once again don’t answer any of the questions ever put to you about them.

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Opposition movements are controlled by ‘the conspiracy’ so what should people do? (you say here ‘most opposition movements, does this mean you believe some oppositions are not controlled if so which are they?)

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So democracy is an illusion – so what would be your preferred form of government?

You’ve pushed the right wing libertarian idea of government with very limited powers and the idea of people just kind of going back to nature and fighting each other for resources, so can you please explain what you mean? And here you talk of decentralisation – in what way and how small?

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And what would you do about the wealthy elites that whose powers would be greatly increased by all of your proposals?

 

Yes. I totally even know who Henry Kissinger is. And what he says in that article is a monologue, his own thoughts and opinion.

 

So, you think that people aren't organizing because of the media?

Come'on. The internet is loaded with alternative and insightful knowledge right at one's fingertips. In the past, I could never even dream of reading a journal in the Middle East, but now with technology, sattelite radio, people can get information sources from across the globe. There are literally thousands of New World Order webpages out there for people to "wake up" to. Thousands of DVD documentaries, books, editorials, periodicals at the library for the average citizen to discover an interest. Networking communities online are linking causes and campaign events together. How do you think Mr. Paul got all that attention and funding? My Nana added me as a friend on Facebook, about a year ago and she's 76. It's not fair to say it's not enough in order to expose people who need to be exposed. People are steadily connecting themselves. That's just it, they're getting connected to new views, they are more open to receiving fringe information more than they ever were in the past.

See, if you think Federalism and patriotism is a joke, then why bother fight a globalized agenda? Like, how do you think you can appeal to people to defend their borders when you think borders are a joke anyway?

That was my point. I'm not sure if you missed that thought somewhere in your logic.

You're a bit confused. You know when you call in "the feds"? Every country has a federal entity wielding governance power and most patriotic citizens are in favour of maintaining a sense of federalized unity through those entities. Or do you think States want out of the USA, hm? Do you think the USA wants to start counting Mexicans as citizens? If not, then you have a cause to support national sovereignty and existing federalized borders. It's that simple.

I agree with what is said in bold. But my outlook on people who have the power to change the world is much more optimistic than yours. I don't hold true to my heart that everyone around me is stupid, dumbed down and inferior, and thusly incapable of making informed choices for the better.

No, I think a lot of these movements are building momentum, are networking themselves and growing closer to the greater goal, which is to change and affect the system. The World Social Forum is one example of how slavery, environment, healthcare, industries and so on across the globe are being given a seat at a World table to sit around and negotiate certain strategies to find alternative policies around the very globalized systems that are oppressive and are very real. The Convention on Biological Diversity, ETC Group, Our World is Not For Sale, Killer Coke Campaign etc. etc. are all making efforts collectively to come together and work together to formulate mass change.

Those kinds of movements bring the causes back into the world mainstream, which have the potential to create a mass realization like you very much are in favour.

 

His own thoughts and opinions, and it is Kissinger who is much higher up on the proverbial pyramid than your average politician. Kissinger has been one of the people most leading the push toward a New World Order for the past 40-50 years. He is one of the elite and probably the most poweful name in geopolitics in modern history. When people hear the term 'New World Order,' Kissinger is one of the first people that comes to their mind. He is not simply giving his opinion, but telling you his plans and those of his cohorts.

 

Holy heathen Batman!

The man is A Neo World Order! If you rearrange the letters in his name it spells "Skiny Ringers".

Proof he owns the new world!

Look, I don't like him either, but what he's saying isn't the gospel truth. Why are you believing him as if it is?

 

More people have begun to wake up because of the internet, yes. But there is also a lot of disinformation out there, too, which serves to neutralize people and send them off in the wrong direction. Most people have a hard time assimilating information that is not pounded into their heads on a daily basis by the media, and many of the biggest and most well-funded "opposition" groups are really false opposition groups based around the consensus, media-created reality.

As far as sovereignty is concerned, the idea that any one country or its people are better than another, in my opinion, is ludicrous. Countries themselves are not natural. Borders are simply imaginary lines on a map. I don't have this romanticized idea of America like some so-called "patriots" have. I find that to be silly and cliche.

However, national sovereignty at this point is surely preferable to the global tyrannical system the elite are preparing without people's consent. This doesn't make me a patriot, though. It simply means I am opposed to something much worse. At this point on their time-table, nationalism no longer serves its purpose to the ruling elite, as they want a global system to control and dominate the planet. We are already under a de facto world government and have been for a very long time, but one that is veiled under the facade of national sovereignty, which is indeed a facade when you look at the various free trade agreements and international UN treaties that have long established international laws that override national ones. What they want is an open one world government, where borders are erased and governments and economic systems are completely integrated.

I don't believe that most people are stupid or inferior to myself. There are people much smarter than I who still fall into the trap. Dumbed-down doesn't mean stupid, it just means that people have had their natural survival instincts surrendered and/or subverted, and thus don't want to see the hammer that's coming down on them. Wild animals have natural instincts of self-preservation. They sense the evil intentions of predators and they survive by trusting their own instincts. Wild herds do not hang around when one or more members drops dead. Specially bred sheep do.

Most people want to immerse themselves in the artificial world of entertainment and commerce, which are the perfect distractions -- "bread and circuses" as they called it in the days of the Roman Empire.

People also need to understand that not all opposition groups are anti-establishment. Many actually benefit the establishment and are funded by the big foundations like Ford, Carnegie and Rockefeller. You mentioned the Convention on Biological Diversity, which is a product of the NWO crowd, who use the environment to consolidate control and erase national sovereignty. That is what is really behind this "green" push. In reality it has nothing to do with the environment at all, at least not to the people at the top. It's just a way to get the people behind thier agenda by promoting what people believe to be a noble cause that in fact is nothing like what it appears to be on the surface.

 

I never said it's the gospel truth. All I am saying is that Kissinger is perhaps thee number one power broker in the geopolitical world today. When he speaks, he not just giving his opinion. He is laying out the agenda of his brethren for everyone to see.

 

Oh Rat I did have a laugh at this, I haven’t seen so much double speak and bull shit since…well since your last long rant.

What has always to be remembered about Rat is that he often says one thing but means another.

For instance he claims, loudly, that he is against the wealthy elite but everything he’s ever suggested in his posts would increase the power of the wealthy elite.

Here we have him claiming not to be a nationalist while trying to push a nationalist course.

And claiming that he doesn’t feel superior to other people while pointing out that a lot of other people are just not as insightful as himself. They’re not dumber than him only they haven’t the brains to work thinks out like he has.

 

which is?

 

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absolute power and control over all mankind..

 

Why would they want that?

and even if what you say is true, don't they already have all that?

I mean, if they are super wealthy and elite, they pretty much have everything they could ever want.

 

unfortunately no they dont have that. Much Much more control can be put on the masses than what there is now.

once again,the information is out there for anyone who cares to read it. look at the goals of the UN,the CFR, the trilateral commission,project for the new american century, and the list goes on..

yes they can and will if given the opprotunity assert much more power and control over the masses..

 

They don't even care about monetary wealth. They control the monetary wealth of the world and have all the money they could ever possibly need. Money is simply their way of exercising control over the people. That is their objective; control over the entire planet and every person.

Sorry, but if this is such a foreign concept to you, then I don't even know where to begin because it goes even a lot deeper than what I am telling you here.

What this elite want is a utopia on earth for only themselves, with just enough people remaining to serve them. They see the average person as less than cattle

 

Just for the sake of control? I mean, all of this work, and to what end?

 

Total control, ultimate power isn't an end you can comprehend some aspiring to attain? It's been the stuff of holy wars for all time.

 

no I can't

control just for the sake of control (when they basically already have total control) is sort of meaningless.

I mean, they can't actively tell me what I'm going to have for breakfast, or where I am going to go at 3 PM, but who gives a shit about things like that?

People usually have some sort of goal in mind, total control to me seems sort of fleeting, and something that maybe an evil genius in a comic book would dream about.

 

Why do you think they are building up a police state with standing armies in the US and across most of the Western world? Do you believe it's to stop the terrorists, as they claim?

These people see average people as parasites that serve no real purpose other than to keep their system going. We are completely expendable to them.

It is largely about control as these people are psychopathic. However, it also goes further than that. They believe there are too many people on this planet sucking up resources they feel belong only to themselves.

 

I think I am beginning to understand Rat, and I may be wrong. But I think what he wants all of us to do is wake up to the power of the individual. Be individually responsible. And in a way that would be nirvana.

 

“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.

Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.”
Edward Mandell House

 

Actually they can in many parts of the world they do just that. Think about Gaza, the Gazans can't have what they want for breakfast, Israel allows the goods to enter, so if you want eggs, but they don't allow eggs into your part of the world...you better be happy with cereal, or whatever they allow in.

And if they install a 3pm curfew, then you better be in your home before then.