Children Killing Children

That's pretty wild deviate! You have a good point though, I suppose too often we tell kids to turn the other cheek and aren't really dealing with conflict and so it gets to a critical point.

 

Exactly. It's funny how bullies stop bullying once someone fights back and beats the shit out of them.

 

Oh, and you dont blindly follow the media. Which is why this thread is about gun deaths in American schools, not even their biggest problem when it comes child deaths, let alone all the other stuff that happens to kids around the world at higher rates in countries you never hear or care about

So whats stopping you, would only take you a minute or two. Because thread is really about, oh Americas a county kind of like mine, but we dont have this happening, oooo ou values must be so much better than theirs

Do you think anyone really actually believes that? Even or especially the ones that will say that kind of thing.

Say that in one context, but then turn around in another context and blame evil drug companies for supplying anti depressant meds when things dont go as planned. Or blame evil media corporations for the influence they have on their kids. Or blame the government cos the govenment didnt do eveything fo them.

Its always the same shit, kid turns out ok or not too far from the norm, then its all about their awesome values they imprinted on the kid, such a wonderful connection they have blah blah blah. But things dont go to plan, is someone elses fault, Politicians, Pfizer, Facebook. Or they dont know anyway cos just out of sheer dumb luck they never had to raise one of their own that was too challenging.

The Sandy Hook thing, in the end what was the base cause? The gunboy, I wont say gunman, what if really boiled down he was just some selfish little shit, got spoiled by his mum when he was younger, but once he grew up and wasnt as cute anymore and became an annoying teen, then got pissy cos his mommy gave a lot more attention to her students.

Now is not going to be too popular if I say, well the mother only wanted to have kids cos kids are cute and was never really going to give as much of a shit when he grew up. Or that it was the overmothering early on that was the cause, overparenting, god forbid I should blame too much 'good' parenting.

Even though by the sounds of the whole story, did seem to be more about that than whatever meds he did or didnt steal of his mum, what supposed hyper disorder he never actual had that wasnt even mentioned till after he became a mass murderer....or anything else that can be blamed rather than overparenting

 

Do you have a link to something showing this?

 

That is how my dad handled stuff like that too. He told me when I was a kid there were only two reasons to fight; to defend yourself and to defend someone who cannot defend themselves, period.

 

At first I read 'got his cutlass' and I thought your dad got your bike back pirate style.

 

Friend of mine found out some bullies were picking on his kid at school, so he went and parked across from the school and watched as the kids came out for recess. Sure enough, his kid was being picked on and shoved around. He got out of his car, entered the playground and started shoving the bully around with --"how do you like it, huh? How do you like it?" Kid started crying and left his son alone thereafter. Only problem was that he got caught shoving the kid and the police were called!! Don't remember how it was resolved, but it wasn't in his favor. I'd go to the parents if it was one of mine and make it clear in no uncertain terms that the bullying WILL stop.

 

This is easy and I will make it simple..america is fucked

too much propaganda for kids
lots of untruths and secrets in america
lots of technology
video games, movies, music
bad and corrupt government= bad people

 

Not a link, but I can tell you the articles I'm referring to:

Income inequality, trust and homicide in 33 countries (Published in the European Journal of Public Health, 2010, Vol 21(2) pg 241-246)

and

Income Inequality and School Bullying: Multilevel Study of Adolescents in 37 Countries (Journal of Adolescent Health, 2009, Vol 45 pg 351-359)

I just used them for a paper so I had them handy, haha.

 

Yes, good questions!

 

Roamy, I never cared if you changed anything about your post.

Vanilla Gorilla thought you were focusing on just the USA and asked you about Ireland's youth.

I just suggested that you might want to broaden the discussion to include kids everywhere.

If you don't want to, I don't care.

 

I don't know about other nations and if they have the income inequality America does, but I do know most nations don't have the middle class America does. America is half middle class which can't be said for many places I'd guess. That is changing though, probably due to America outsourcing its jobs to the rest of the world. You can thank us.

 

What's the income level (min - max) of somebody who is 'middle-class'?

I thought 'middle-class' in America meant anybody with a car and a job.

 

No, that's not true. For example if my grandma buys me a car and I'm working as a delivery boy making minimum wage or barely over and have rent to pay, that is barely survivable (if you could survive on it, shits inflated in 2013) and considered poverty level. It depends on things like size of family in addition to income. Hence why you always hear about lazy people trying to fraud the system by having multiple kids. You can find out how poverty level is determined on the US Census page: http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/about/overview/measure.html

 

I was interested in your perception of America's 'Middle-Class' though.
...not the poverty levels.
You said half of America was 'Middle - Class'.
So, I just wondered what type of income level that would be (or between) - just a rough estimate, really (not taking in too many other factors).

You might have sensed I wasn't being serious with the whole car and job thing.
I was just being a little cynical.

 

i think you should read vanilla gs post again.he said nothing at all like that on his post.

 

That's what I understood him to be saying. Maybe he will clarify:

 

america is a country not a county.

 

thank you for your input.

 

but there is'nt any law in america about how many children people have,so in that case are'nt people entitled to have any size family they choose to have.