Children and nudism

CH, Standingseated is right.

Nothing really messes up a girl like having an abusive or sleazy dad.

Most girls dads are the first man with whom they learn to create a bond, if she's 12 and the only way she gets attention from dad is to dress slutty, then thats way too early, she'll depend too much on that kind of attention with every man later on.

So naturism is fine if the dad isnt a sleaze bag, and always gives her proud dad looks, but if she catches him all the time looking at her bits in a sleazy way, so not a good thing

 

I am a philosophy and environmental studies Honors Emeritus with a 79.264 % average final year, BITACH, WHAT WHAT! DONT get it twisted, I can still get down with some straight hood talk, YA HEARD! hahahah I am JOKING, JUST JOKING but not about the university accreditation. As an Environmental and Philosophy Emeritus, I have been required to write papers that extend beyond 2500-1200 words and I have only excelled to be top student in most of my classes. This surely reflects that I have writing skills sufficient to exceed in the highest academic environment most will ever be challenged in their entire lives by and in relation to your post that you have to take more time to understand what I say, simply put or ask more questions. It seems like these thoughts involve more than you are used to, especially considering that I am a recent university graduate.

I would surely suggest that you take a practical thinking and argumentation course or read a book on it. It will help you break down arguments, isolate premises and conclusions and notice to the highest extent of your knowledge, how reasonable the argument seems.

I took that course in first year, it really helped me understand how to argue with others, by teaching me how to understand WHY it is they say what they believe in a more concrete way.

 

yeah, all that and yet you forgot to mention who you are talking to?

Smart

 

It was intended something that would go for the people that complained about my language. I imagined you would have reasoned that since it is not a response that could possibly answer your concerns, that you would simply ignore it.

I did not say I am an authority on truth. I do however have a problem with people assuming that my writing skills are sub-par when I have the credentials that beyond doubt have me believe that they are indeed sufficient.

In response to your post. You have given no reasoning to back up your claims. No empirical evidence and not logical deduction on what I posted. I am surprised that you expect me to answer you after I realized how much you completely ignored the reasoning behind my post.

If you could potentially come up with something that relates to the problems I find, I will be happy to communicate with you.

 

Changehappens -- the first rule of good writing is to consider your audience. Also, avoid run-on sentences. Whatever an honors emeritus might be, you are not Proust.

 

Also -- really -- what do you have against emotion and intuition? Without going into discussions of Kierkegaard or Sartre...Just as you feel it, from your own experience and observation.

 

"I intended to address the complaints that had been made about my use of language. I imagined that you would have ignored my post, as it did not address your concerns." -- fixed. Grammatically correct, more concise, directly to the point --also, slightly less snippy. Condescension, as I'm sure you know, is a barrier to effective communication under most circumstances. It's certainly unattractive. You do write like someone who is relatively new to the language. You have a large vocabulary, but your understanding of idiom is weak.

Well...I can be snippy sometimes, too, can't I?

 

Its not my fault my words make anyone feel stupid. I cannot monitor my audience and their feeling of condescension, when I cant even see their emotional response to my words, through facial expression and vibe. It's better not to communicate with each other it seems, you hardly ever understand anything I say and yet I understand what you say completely. It seems like the problem is that you simply have either not taken the time to understand me or you do not have the mental fitness to. Also, I suggest that you rethink the comment on condescencion, which leaves me little reason to talk to you ever again. Your first words to me for example, out everything you said to me, is; you are mad and you are insane. This is incredibly frustrating, I have gotten nothing out of this. This is is a sign of an incompatible communication and thought style.

 

What is communicated is not what is sent, but what is received. To the extent that you can tailor what you send so that what is received is what you had intended, you kind of owe it to yourself to do so. Nobody wants to waste time with misunderstandings.

I stated my opinion. I have a right to have that opinion, and to express it. However, in retrospect, I can see how it wasn't at all helpful to have done that. I apologize to you, Changehappens. It's entirely possible that I was wrong, anyway.

I suppose you've read Derrida. Foucault said that Derrida practiced a method Foucault called obscuratism terroriste (terrorism of obscurantism):

"He writes so obscurely you can't tell what he's saying, that's the obscurantism part, and then when you criticize him, he can always say, 'You didn't understand me; you're an idiot.' That's the terrorism part."

Your method is similar. Foucault was no idiot. Though I'm certainly no Foucault, I'm also not an idiot.

 

Please, Changehappens! I really would love to know!

 

Again, who exactly are you talking to?

As for qualifications, you are an annonymous handle on a internet messageboard, you could flip burgers for a living for all we know.

Maybe try summarize a few questions so we may answer.

But really what is the argument?

Family nudism with Parents that are nurturing = Good
Family nudism with Parents that are perverts = Bad

 

You don't say?
Then why waste your breath here discussing a topic that we do not wish to discuss? A person of my qualifications does not waste time on intellectuals with a barrow to push. The door is behind you.

 

Show me where I said I had anything against intuition and emotion. Specifically, quote that part, where I said those exact words.

 

The questions and the reasoning behind my questions precedes it are in bold. I answer the question to the best of my ability in the paragraph following the questions. There is also question at the end on the third paragraph which shows a concise reason why I cannot believe that the trust Issues and feeling of betrayal that S.S. must be assumed to be static representations of the way people feel emotions and emotionally respond to the behavior in question

 

Thats serously F'd up, if you get turned on by seeing your kids naked and masterbate in front of them than your not a Nudist your a pedophile.

 

I'm all for family nudism, but if you feel sexual about it, your family may need to get a room somewhere, and then see a psychiatrist to get your heads screwed on straight.

Maybe you're botching your written statement, and actually feel another way. I don't know. A nude family is beauty personified, IF you handle it right. And, you would need to check with each member of your family to see if he/she is okay about being nude at home. If one child is not okay without his/her clothes on, let him/her be clothed, and teach the other children to respect that.

And, yes, Steve, you might be a troll, but even so, it is a good point to discuss amongst the non-brain-dead people here.

 

I agree that nudisteve should not be on this forum.

 

Its probably a bad thing he got banned, now he has more freetime to scar his poor kids for life...

 

After researching substantially, I would have to say it is still inconclusive whether or not light erotica with children does severe damage or excellent emotional benefits(they have less insecurity). Heavy molestations seems to definitely provide horribly for a persons emotions.

However, because there is a risk and a person can be decently happy with light nudism, if not more emotionally effortless, then I would have to conclude that this is the best decision so far.

 

You are a paedophile. Get help and stay away from kids