Childhood Vaccinations....

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by BrownTripleQQ, Mar 21, 2005.

  1. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    err they cant improve your immune system if its working fine

    they cant make your immune system protect against diseases its not programmed to, and doesnt program any new ones in.

    if you have a working immune system, then more vitimins wont help

    but the fact is that practically everyone IS vitimin difficient. hwo ever said the world was healthy?

    vaccinations dont cause harm, but they do prevent disease.

    a lot of the illnesses we are vaccinated against are ones we will probably never come across.
    but you could

    better safe than sorry?
     
  2. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    What I hate are the scare tactics.
    We don't get flu shots. There is soooo much media hype about them and how you could die if you don't get one. Thank you SARS. Well, we opted out and then they came out with "the mercury is giving some kids autism"......also if a kid hasn't had one before, the need to get TWO of them, a month or two apart.

    There are also new chicken pox vaccines.....no thanks. I could understand if a child had a very weak immune system, or an adult had never had chicken pox as a child, but my healthy children will be fine and a normal immune system needs exercise.

    Anything new these days has not been tested enough for my tastes. I am not a "Band Wagon" jumper. ;)
     
  3. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    this discssion went on on the parenting forum and there were people with first hand stories about how vaxing thier kids had awful side effects. I read a bunch of articles some of the ladies posted.

    I used to think I would ALWAYS vax my kid when I have him/her. But now what I plan on doing is researching the area I'm living in, see what would be more needed, and play it by ear. I may not vax at all. Most of the diseases that you vax for are really rare nowadays and we have excellent treatments at hospitals. I may not vax my kid.
     
  4. StonerBill

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    daisy do you know how vaccines work?
     
  5. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    Yes, but it's an artificial "exercise" for your immune system. Made of god knows what.
    I wouldn't try to live on vitamin pills instead of real food, either.
     
  6. daisymae

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    Also, trying to get rid of relatively harmless diseases causes them to mutate, and we get nasty super-bugs. Over-sanitizing everything does the same. A little dirt is good for you. :D
     
  7. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    yes this is true but i dont think you really do understand how they work. a vaccine does exacxtly teh same process as the real one does. thats why it works. its not excersise. there are a huge array of germs that can infect, but the immune system only knows the ones its been shown. you can be shown when contracting a small amount, getting the sickness and then curing up, or by getting a vaccine. the process is the same, the vaccine is a small dose of the thing that tells the immune system the same code as the germ vaccinated against.
    its better that you learn from the vaccine than from the disease!

    and if your too clean, your immune system gets no coding and so almost any sort of germ will be able to infect.
     
  8. StonerBill

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    the diseases we vaccinate are not exactly 'relatively harmless' caus if they were then we wouldnt vaccinate against them.
     
  9. Children of Bodom

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    I used to love to get my TB test. they would give me a cool little paper with all kinds of bumps on it, and the shot didnt hurt.
     
  10. daisymae

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    Chicken pox and the flu aren't going to kill normal healthy people.

    I'm not talking about the vaccines made from real viruses, alive or dead. I worry about these freaky concoctions they make up for the flu each year. You only have a 70 % chance of it being effective, anyway.
     
  11. sooty_the_kat

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    yes but it is a tad annoying when it is your kids who spread chicken pox around coz they didnt get immunised from it. also not vaccinating them now leaves them at risk of contracting shingles when they are older. i never got chicken pox as a kid coz when it spread my parents took me out of school (for other reasons). i got vaccinated against it only a few months ago because my mum got shingles. and i tell you that is a nasty nasty disease.
     
  12. daisymae

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    As I said in a previous post, I see nothing wrong with adults who're not immune or kids with weak immune systems getting the vaccine.


    Of course, in 10 or 20 years, maybe we'll have a super-bug worse than shingles come from this.
     
  13. StonerBill

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    your not healthy persion if you have chicken pox of flu.
    did you know flu is deadly?
    most people who think theyve got 'flu' just have a cold, a real flu is increidbly debilatating and potentially deadly.

    While its valid to wonder what exactly the artificial chemicals are that we vaccinate with, their chemical function is still the same as that of natural
    otherwise it wouldnt work
    ,see
     
  14. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    I still think that vaccinations are a good thing.... in all my years of getting vaccinations as a kid (mostly in school), only twice have there ever been any problems - one girl fainted two times, because she's practically phobic about needles, not because the vaccine was bad. But hey, that's just me.
     
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