ChemTrails!

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by Bumble, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. Bumble

    Bumble Senior Member

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    1-Aluminum + Barium
    2-To control the weather and for weather warfare. If a country has beef with another country, then they can alter the weather in that area and cause 1000s+ people to die for "natural" reasons. The country at fault would never get caught, so they save money and lives by not going to war. Makes a lot of sense to me as to why they do this, but DEFINALLY not right!

    These "smart" scientists that are behind this said that the reason as to why they orginally started dispersing chemtrails is to patch up the holes in our atmosphere by creating an artificial atmosphere, but in reality this is making the holes a lot bigger! So I don't believe this reason at all. I believe that they are using is solely to alter the weather for weather warfare. Chemtrails are speeding up global warming. The USA, Russia and China are behind all of this. Surprize, surprize!

    Now do you get it?
     
  2. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    control? some blank solution for spec, I'd imagine; I was involved with the wet chem/muffling, not the analytical apps.
     
  3. streamlight

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    Ok then, how does barium and aluminum change the weather?
     
  4. streamlight

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    Yes, a control, how did you know these nitrates weren't in the soil before?
     
  5. Bumble

    Bumble Senior Member

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    because they are metals and metals conduct electricity, which in return creates storms.
     
  6. streamlight

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    It seems to me that if you add metal to a cloud, it will slowly drop through the air, making it easier to leach a charge from the cloud, and reducing thunderstorms.

    And, if it is barium and aluminum, why would they make cloud that grows as opposed to normal airplane contrails?
     
  7. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    nitrites (one less oxygen), not nitrates... and aluminum nitrite in the soil? does that sound normal to you?
     
  8. streamlight

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    Sorry, I've heard of aluminum nitrates, but not nitrites, I thought maybe it was a typo, anyway, I don't see any reason why aluminum nitrite wouldn't be in the soil, there's plenty of other stuff in the soil.
     
  9. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    well let me inform you then....aluminum nitrite is used in heat sinking material for electronics manufacturing, and it's not a commonly found compound in soil. wouldn't surprise me if planes painted the sky with the shit, just about anything you dump from a fast-moving plane is going to leave a trail easily distinguishable from normal trails.
     
  10. streamlight

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    But, what I asked you is what was your control, what did you test your results against? Also, all of these conspiracy theorists say, that a contrail disappears in about 90 seconds, while a chemtrail will last, and grow.

    So, here's my questions, why would they spray aluminum nitrite, and why would that cause cloud cover to grow.
     
  11. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    the control was probably typical topsoil, free of pollutants (which aluminum nitrite is)

    why whould a plane dump nitrites? your guess is as good as mine; I'm a member of the scientific community, not a conspiracy analyst. All I can tell you is, planes dump these sort of chemicals all the time, and Halliburton doesn't show up on the scene to cover it up. it remains in the soil.

    as far as weather warefare, I don't know...but I'm not a 'doubting Thomas' either; it's fairly plausible. If you haven't read "Behold a Pale Horse", I suggest you do (particularly about the well documented cases regarding CIA involvement with chemical warefare research, from a former Navy Intel. officer. it'll make you sick to your stomach)

    there are theories, and then there are conspiracies; the latter are just as real as the former.
     
  12. dd3stp233

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    I don't know if chemtrails are real or not but all contrails are not the same. I frequently take landscape photographs so I'm out looking at the land and sky for hours. I usually try not to get contrails in my pictures so I have to watch them and wait for them to disappear. Most will dissapper rather quickly but some will just spread out and grow into thin whispy clouds or sometimes will continue to build until the sky is overcast and then sometimes rains. Those particular type contrails (chemtrails?) are the original source from where the clouds started forming (as opposed to natural cloud formation). I have witnessed this many times in different locations. Escpecially in the Mojave desert, where humidity is usually very low.
     
  13. streamlight

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    You don't know what the control was, then how can you make any accurate assumptions.
     
  14. streamlight

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    the reason they grow sometimes is because of the humidity, low humidity, they will disappear, high humidity, they will grow.
     
  15. polymer

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    I'm not the one assuming aluminum nitrite could commonly be found in the composition of soil. It's not. the control was probably typical topsoil in DI water.

    to answer your original question, aluminum nitrite could technically be dissolved in an anionic solution, then dispersed, unhooking aluminum ions to accept electrons from clouds; what for? beat's me :/

    but here's some dirt on your boy http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2332044#post2332044
     
  16. streamlight

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    I personally, can't accept your reports as facts, typical topsoil? what is typical, unless there is a way of telling what that soil was like before you tested it, you can't compare it to anything, the nitrites could possibly be natural to that part of the world.
     
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    ummm.... I have lived in L.A., San Fransisco, Minneapolis (+Minnesota suburbs) and Chicago. Never EVER seen or heard about Chemtrails.
    So....what is highly populated areas then?

    As well I would like to re-iterate:
    NO reperable website mentions these Chemtrails. The goverment has been OPEN and TALKED PUBLICLY about the theory and have disproved it- but if you don't trust them. NO scientific organization, or any claim, backs up these theories.
    It is a theory, it does nto disprove it, but you have no idea what or why.
     
  19. streamlight

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    This guy gets it, all the sites taht say they are real are home-brewed, and the government says they are fake, but the government lies, so joe schmo's theory on it is obviously the truth.
     
  20. dd3stp233

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    "Contrails spread apart and evaporate with time. If the air in which the cloud develops has a low relative humidity, the cloud particles will quickly evaporate. However, even in the presence of higher relative humidities, upper level winds can spread contrails apart, forming a horizontal sheet-like cloud. For a contrail to remain in tact for a long period of time, the air must have high a relative humidity and light winds." from University of Illionis website

    All other websites seem to say basically the same thing, high thin clouds (cirrus) can form from contrails. I have seen contrails form into regular stratocumulus and nimbustratus clouds over a period of hours. This is not ever mentioned happening in any scientific studies but I have seen this happen several times.

    Nasa is has been doing a study on if contrails are effecting climate change and the answer from them is appearently, Yes. If chemtrails are real then the effects would be even greater.

    Links to an article and nasa web info.
    http://www.areco.org/contrai2.pdf#search='contrails%20clouds%20forming'

    http://cloud1.arc.nasa.gov/espo/success/index.html
     
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