Weak. Really weak. Basically your only point is that He funded Terrorists based on what Americans said. Weak. America supplied a fuck of a lot more help to Al-Qaeda than $1 million, so it doesn't even matter if it's true. He's not a dictator based on anything I've read. More like a liberator.
Gilligan, if the best evidence you have is something posted on Free Republic, you'll never score a point around here. As has been stated already in this thread, there is a huge amount of disinformation and lies being spread about Chavez in US right wing controlled media, and you've just proven that point to us. thanks!
Define "middle class". As far as I am aware of, the US refued to process oil from Cuba. That is when it all began. And I don't think you are the first to have the right to speak out against other nation's history. The US even attacked Cuba with biological weapons, and have occupied the Island for several years. Not to mention several invasions. If the US does not want to trade with Cuba, fine. But the fact is, they are setting up traps that make Cuba economically isolated. It is not just "I don't want to trade with you"; It's more like "I will make the whole world stop trading with you, I want you to suffer". And who create those regulations? DING DING DING!!! The upper class/The wealthy/The rich. Congratulations, we just imposed regulations on ourselves, so you can remain passive, and we can continue to exploit your silly ass! That is impossible when the people do not have power. Not "supporters". The proletariat and peasants. They are classes, not neccesarily supporter. As for examples, how about the Paris commune? Central points to take into consideration: 1. Historically, almost any socialist revolution has started in the third world. 2. People in the third world generally live like shit 3. Still, Cuba, a third world country, has in many ways done much more positive things than the US. What is remarkable about Cuba is that the nation has done so much, with so little. Give us some documentation. Far as I remember, now there are elections every 2 1/5 years, instead of every five or four years. Now, people can gather signatures from the population, and if the number of signatures is high enough, new elections will be taken place. The opposition however, faked many of the signatures (even placing signatures of dead and fictional people), yet, new elections were scheduled. So all people in Latin America, Afrika, Asia, and Eastern Europe, have simply done "poor personal decisions"? What is that decision? Being born into poverty? Regarding Chavez and Al Qaeda: You use freerepublic and nationalreview as sources. Why not a less biased source? I did a search on google on Chavez and Al Qaeda. Guess what I found on the front page? A link to the freerepublic, a link to the nationalreview, and something about Condolezza rice, and a site claiming: "Hugo Chavez supports Saddam Hussein and terrorism." I think you have a poor insight in how it is being poor. You live in a house about to collapse. Maybe it has already collaped, or at least parts of it. The food conist of some potatoes and some chicken. You don't have a shower, and when you have to go to the toilet, you have to do it in a hole in the ground, you have to use leafs to clean yourself. You cannot read. You work for your boss, who own a lot of money, you serve him, he makes a lot of money on your labor, but you make almost anything. I have been living under these conditions. I know what it is like. It isn't just pointing with a magic stick in the air and say "I want to be rich". Most poor people don't have any opportunities. But I agree with you. And just giving poor people money, will not change the situation. I say the tools of production are the means to become wealthy. Thus, I want to see poor people taking control of the means of production.
The US donated some 100 million to Afghanistan around 2001. Even if the claim about Chavez is true (something I find little more than a fantasy), who i the bigget culprit? Chavez giving 1 million, or the US giving over 1 billion since 1979. Again I want to say that I do not believe Chavez support Al Qaeda, nor do I have much reason to believe he did.
Chavez is the man of the people. Of course most of his support comes form the poor. He is the man that spear heads their movement. People always point to the mess that venezuela is in. Chavez is fixing it. And as has already been pointed out he is helping people, and putting worlkplaces under workers control. He is just now looking into putting 10 000 factories into workers control.
