Charlottesville, Va Blut Und Boden

The neo nazis didn't have a permit for their tiki torch march Friday night, the same night they surrounded a church and sprayed mace on the clergy

This is like the 4th time i've mentioned this in this thread and yet people still keep talking about the peaceful, law abiding Nazis

Wake up y'all

 

Also the link I posted above shows a group of white supremacists ganging up on and beating up on a black guy in Charlottesville

But sure, keep clinging to the "such nice, law abiding white supremacists" narrative

 

You don't win over swing voters and independents by violating the law and beating people with baseball bats. I saw the live footage. How do you feel about a second term for Trump? He can only win if we handle things poorly. Give Trump enough rope, and he will hang himself.

Genteel? Maybe a better word for it is smart.

Yes, I didn't attack anyone. I didn't break any laws. I was faithful to my own values.

Was Martin Luther King wrong about appropriate protest tactics? I think he showed us all the way to get things done.

This was the action of one person. Looking at video of the earlier part of the event, the violence seemed to be more or less balanced.

All of my close friends are liberals, and not a one of them would ever consider for one moment bringing a baseball bat to a protest. To me, that communicates criminal intentions.

 

Then you would agree not to bring guns, either? .....as was on CNN last night.....White KKK member pointed a gun at a black man's head.....and then fired on the ground....Black man used the can of spray paint he had, lit a match to it and shot out flames at the gun pointer.......He had the can of spray paint as someone else threw that at him earlier....

This is one of many examples. Hatred is alive and well,folks, growing stronger every day..

 

I haven't said anything about this, until now.

When the other side does things like this, why do anything other than let their words and actions speak for themselves? What can we add to that? Online, we only need to point out what they've said and done.

Don't ever sink to their level. When we do that, they've won a battle. And all the undecided people in the middle get confused. They start saying, "Both sides are the same". We have to show them a distinct difference.

Who is saying this? I don't see that post.

 

From what I can see your all Fucked up ! A statue of a man on a horse cant hurt nobody , People do that There is no good or bad history it Happened and you cant change it ?
Make your Own Or fuck stuff up because of the past ! Up to you !
I like old things and think they should be left where they are, Thats Just My opinion right or wrong

Anyway I am English what do I know ?

 

Bingo.

They showed up to cause trouble. If they didnt want trouble they would not have shown up. But they wanted trouble. Ain't no two ways about it.

I know as a gay female I dont go to anti gay rallies because there'll be trouble. So I don't go. I accept some people don't like it and I get on with my life. But to show up means I'm looking for trouble. Not curiosity, that's what news and media is for. Specifically trouble is why I'd show up.

 

I also said Good ! It happened thats why we call it History

Those wars you mention ! They ended, We made friends with the Germans You wanna Carry yours on forever ?
They were your own Countrymen,Where else Do you want them to put Monuments ( and If not then why were they allowed to build them anyway )
From what I can see the Trouble started Not because people were Celebrating them But because People were wanting to remove them !
Some people seem hell bent on destroying Everything they dont like the look of in the name of progress !

Your asking me a question I cant answer about the Statues of German generals in the UK , I never claimed there were any ??

Edit
There was an English civil war though I work at a factory called "Cavalier Carpets " but no Roundhead supporters have tried to Burn it down yet

 

If people really want to save the statues then more Civil War scholars and less white supremacists should be protesting their removal. The mayor of Baltimore quietly removed their statues earlier this week before Neo Nazis could get wind of it and come to protest. The only thing white supremacy rallies do for the cause is make more people associate these statues with hate and racism.

 

Not in so many words but the sentiment I keep seeing seems to be

The white supremacists were peaceful until antifa agitated them

And

The white supremacists were lawfully protesting

Neither of which are true because they didn't have a permit for Friday and also on Friday they physically attacked members of the clergy

Friday's events caused me to slightly shift my opinion of antifa because several members of the clergy (who had been training in non violent opposition specifically for this event, just as a side note) have came out and gave Antifa credit for saving their lives on Friday.

I'm not really disagreeing with your thoughts on non violent protest, I've always been of the mind that Antifa is doing nothing but giving peaceful protestors a bad name. However, there's some grey area when non violent protesters could have potentially been hurt or killed without them.

 

if you read what autophobe said at the top of his plethora of links, he attributed all the crimes below to white supremacists. If he is going to accuse, falsely the so called right and white supremacy for the actions of people who are not what he said than yes, it can be compared. He provided the links. It isn't like left leaning groups have not blown up things in the USA, killed people. This seems to be a common tactic, look at them and all the things they have done. Don't look at me because they are worse,

 

No because as I said its History ! Same as WW1 and 2 your war seems to keep on going, or a lot of you guys cant seem to let it go (both sides from what I can see )