Charlottesville, Va Blut Und Boden

I didn't expect you to argue these points. I expected you to capitulate based on them.

 

You're expectations were correct. Clearly, the first amendment only protects speech when it is related to the government. Beating someone because of their exercise of first amendment rights is not prohibited by law.

Your comprehension of constitutional law and your debating skills are far superior to mine. You win.

 

You need to learn the difference between violation of free speech and assault and battery.

While you're at it learn the difference between arguing and not arguing.

 

Fascist and nazi propaganda speeches by the alt left (BLM, ANTIFA, Islamic brotherhood, etc...) that are recorded and posted on you tube, as well as the actions of said groups, makes it not the actions of fascist or nazis because they say they are not fascist, nazis or racist, that is reserved for the right.

 

Do you consider Antifa to be mainstream left? I don't.

 

Did you even read the article? What a joke and typical of an antifa and BLMer, which I suppose you are a part of. He was not a white supremacist first off. Secondly the man turned himself in, beaten and battered by the alt left who were throwing bricks, setting things on fire, and beating people trying to get into a venue to hear milo speak. The people inside the venue were told by police to remove all trump supporter identificatio in order to protect their lives as they left.

Your link again and suggesting this is the actions of white supremacists could not be further from the truth. That site lists hate crimes against muslims, blacks, Jewish, immigrants and other (other being people of colour. It does not list hate crimes against white people because that doesn't happen, right? How many of those Jewish hate crimes were committed by Islamic people or black people? Perhaps Hispanic people! But you will state this like it is committed by white supremacists.

Their page states the following:

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Again, did you read the article? This was a veteran, who had just lost his father, was depressed and often complained of health problems. He randomly opened fire in a bar and killed one East Indian man and wounding two others who were not East Indian. You will paint this how you want to justify your actions. Furthermore, he never said get out of my country in that article.

Did you simply copy and paste other people assessments from a search of the articles and believe it to be true?

Shall I continue, because I know there are a lot more on your list like this.

 

Didn't the counter-protestors have a right to free speech? Can you tell us who threw the first punch? Heather Heyer?

 

Of course they are not Nazis or fascists. The folks holding the torchlight parade and chanting "Blood and Soil" were Nazis and Fascists. Antifa is Anarchist. Islamic radicals are Islamic radicals. Let's not be sloppy about our use of labels. I don't think the groups you mention were expounding fascist and Nazi propaganda. They were expounding a different kind of radicalism. But Black lives do matter!

 

Is the alt right racist? No, just some racist people adopted the term and it has come to mean something to you!

Clearly you know nothing of the alt right, alt left or its origins. It started out by people on 4chan and Reddit, it was memes against political correctness to which the Democratic Party objected to, as did sketchy news sources who decided to lable the so called alt right as a lot of things they were not, just as you have done. Yes the term has been adopted by extremists like Richard Spencer, but that does not make people who post all those things you say. They believe in freedom of speech. Against having their language and statements defined or told you can not say that because of whatever reason. Against globalization, etc... lean right and you are a racist or any other name your news source decided to tell you they are they are The alt left term was used in memeposters also dating way back to 2008 and was created by the so called alt right and the alt left in order to discredit the other. If Richard Spencer is how you define the alt right, then BLM, antifa other groups that are also racist hateful groups are the alt left.

Sorry, ther is an alt left, no matter how much you say it doesn't exist. it doesn't make it fact.

 

So tell me? How does a socialist party like the nazi party (socialist) and the democratic party (also socialist) blame republicans, who are supposedly not socialist for the deaths cause d by a socialist party?

 

Hitler used socialism as a tool because he knew the way to garner support for the masses was to make sure they were economically comfortable. It was his authoritarian leanings that was the problem, socialism just helped him fool normal people into supporting it.

Democrats arent socialists. Most democrats in America are fairly middle of the road, by European standards they are probably right of center. There is a more progressive wing of the Democratic party that favors single payer healthcare and what not but this does not make them socialists. It just means they favor a European style mixed economy.

I'm not sure to which deaths you are referring. Who is blaming Republicans?

 

http://reverepress.com/black-lives-matter/none-charlottesville-nazis-beat-deandre-harris-charged/

Just some peaceful nwhite supremacists exercising their first amendment rights

 

We both know who they're talking about. Call them whatever you want.

Violence is violence. It doesn't help our cause to be perceived as getting down on their level. Martin Luther King explained this far better than I ever could.

They didn't apply for a permit to hold a public event. The other side did, weeks in advance. The best thing the left could have done was to stay home and let the far right embarrass themselves with their own words and actions. Liberal protesters could have scheduled their own (legal) event.

I'm for the nonviolent people.

 

A permit to oppose Nazism? How genteel.