Chances of America being nuked within 5 years?

Some historians and researchers believe that America will be nuked by either china or russia or other world superpowers. That our empire has to fall economically and/or militarily in the near future and a surprise nuke attack is well overdue. What is your opinion? Are you scared of the American empire collapsing due to a sudden, severe nuclear attack? Please explain your belief or disbelief America could be attacked by several competing superpowers in near future and explain your worries and fears of that possible scenario..

 

Do you mean Dick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii6DA19ieKU"]Dick Cheney :ISIS Will Nuke US - YouTube

 

Obama's biggest fear is nuke going off in Manhatten. And the Russia situation with all their submarines off Americas coast targeting american cities/military installations. China and Russia sending spy recon ships off our coasts.

 

I doubt it.

 

:smilielol5:..

 

I'm going to say no. There is such a thing as mutually assured destruction.

 

Maybe by North Korea, they're kinda irrational.

 

We're doomed once they figure out hot air balloon technology..

 

In this world of extremism, it seems a viable possibility (which extends to countries further afield than the US)
The World is a far smaller and more accessible terrain to travel to/from, and with the advancement of IT possibilities - who (and there are those who) know what is possible
I think that nuking on a GRAND stage is 'less' likely, though short range (either accidental or) design means that "vigilance is the price we 'all have to' pay for freedom" - it seems

 

Neither China or Russia wants a world war or to risk getting a nuke back. Also, if they would want to gain more global influence there are arguably better ways to do it.

 

This dirty evil war profiteer, blaming Obama for not maintaining forces in an unwinnable illegal inhuman war he started...

Fucking republitards!

 

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Did Obama or didn't Obama maintain forces?

Would it have made any difference if there were more Nato troops there?

 

There wasn't a nuclear exchange between any superpowers in the last Cold War, so its *reasonably unlikely* there won't during this one.

Any war between superpowers is likely to be more of the proxy variety. But with a difference. The US might back Muslims in Western China. It might back Muslim separatists or Ukrainians in the Russian speaking World.
Likewise Russia or China could back Muslims in America, or radical African Americans, radical Latin Americans or even radical "White Nationalist" type Americans to ferment unrest.

Options would include conventional explosives, self made/"accidentally stolen" nukes, or more likely "dirty bombs" with radioactive materials emitted.

I think America meddling in the Ukraine, which is a spiritual homeland for Russians was a highly provacative thing. Its certainly the type of thing to alienate, restart Cold War psychology and proxy conflicts or similar.

Strategic nukes are only really used as a deterrent and to reduce a conventional arms budget requirement of superpowers.

 

I don't worry much about America being nuked in the near future. What I am concerned about is the debt that keeps rising in an ongoing basis. This is what has the real potential of imploding this country.

 

Lmao the is no chance no one is going to poke that bear

 

Both issues are concerning.

But the problem with the debt, is that they hear a large number and start panicking and thinking with emotion about the largeness of the number they hear.

The debt should always been seen and understood as a ratio of debt over economic growth.

Mathematically the country will be okay if you have a game plan to pay the debt off over time.

But political sideshows like what happened in Oct.- November with the government shutdown really don't help growth of the economy at all, AND politically American citizens are tricked into believing government shutdowns are like a individual household cutting spending, which doesn't work that way.

The government had to pay for what it's signs on to pay in contracts, and if it defaults on those contracts because it doesn't have the money, that doesn't mean the the government stopped new expenditures, it just means interest is rising, and less personal are handling the same amount of paperwork down at the IRS.

True the IRS isn't officially completely shut down but they take serious staff cuts, meaning loss of productivity, and this national debt, and increase individual citizen debt because Americans get their payments delayed and have interest or default charges to pay as a result at the individual level.

 

I don't think there is or ever was a debt crisis. It's a scam.

 

This.

Exactly that.

None of those countries will nuke the US for that reason- just like the US won't nuke them for that reason.

 

It's interesting.

This exact topic was discussed decades ago by scholars. (so yes before 9/11 and before the Afghanistan and Iraq wars)

It was determined that a country, is statistically less likely to nuke anybody, and that if someone were to pull that trigger, it would come from an unstable religiously driven extreme, where the threat of death and destruction have no weight with them because they don't care.


I believe Pakistan, and the middle-east region, had the highest probable cause for pulling the trigger first.

That's why all of our government and other nation's governments are watching what is going on in the middle-east with their unstable uprisings so closely, and why at times governments make deals with unsavory groups and regimes, if stability can be promised to that region of the world.

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Then again North Korea is always a wildcard, and since Hollywood (specifically Seth Rogen, and Jonah Hill) pissed off North Korea recently, we'll see what happens.


What the American public needs to understand is that yes we have free speech and by our laws we can make offensive comedies and stuff, but that by no means implies foreign countries aren't gonna react and take offense by what we do in our own soil, which will affect foreign policy that our nation's President then has to deal with and do damage control.

Actions have consequences, and average American citizens need to be thoughtful of that, as their actions will mean their fellow citizens and their children might have to go fight and die for something you started, albeit legally.

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I will add this though, there is a small stockpile of nukes that went missing when the USSR broke up, and there is another stockpile that USA lost as well, and as far as the official record goes, nobody knows where they went or who has them now.

It's very possible that nobody launches a nuke, and that one of the ones that got lost, and is unaccounted for from decades of cold war manufacturing them for "national cold war: who has the bigger penis" politics just randomly goes off due to technological age.

 

Would it just randomly go off? Is that likely?

Anyways, I still say that Russia or China is not gonna nuk the US and vice versa... but someone in the middle east at some point... yes, much more likely. Not saying that will happen but that it would surprise me much less.