Caravan Of Hondurans Headed To United States

Audio Report from the Second Migrant Caravan in Mexico - It's Going Down

 

hyperloop them to canada

 

Yes, it WAS. But they lost it as a result of the Mexican-American war. The US pushed them all the way to Mexico city, where the border would be today if not for American generosity. The US literally gave them back the land that the US had conquered because the US had no interest in establishing colonies (as we are accused of to this day). Mexico has today's border through no effort of their own, they lost it.

I fail to see what value you find in stating where land used to "belong" to others. Once property is conquered, the vanquished are lucky to get anything back. Prior to the US such defeats meant the entire country was enslaved and sold at auction or toiled in the land they used to call their own to satisfy their new masters. Such was the price of war.

The US never enslaved anyone. The slaves in North America were a product of British rule. It took 80 years, but the US finally abolished it. A number of smaller wars slowed that progress considerably. Some fought because they didn't want to give up their slaves. This included a number of "Native American" tribes who valued slaves. But then, they were slave holders before the Spanish first arrived.

Without the interference of those horrible white people, they'd likely still be holding slaves today. Unless, of course, China invaded from the west.

 

The African America community disagrees on the slave thing.

The prior borders are relevant since many families did not move. They are Mexican and it became Texas for example. These are the people getting harassed now over their skin tone when they are very American. It shows how silly a wall is. We can not really keep score of who has what and when.

It's racial issue. They are not meant to come legally either. They speak Spanish and many white people don't want to learn.

 

Funny how these Honduran and Guatemalan caravans get started just when Trump wants to give a speech about it. It's also suspicious that Mike Pence and Donald Trump tell Sinclair Broadcasting listeners that 600 convicted criminals are among the migrants in that caravan. How would they know about 600 criminals who have not checked in at our border crossing?

 

"In Tijuana, Mexico, a streetlight looms over the southeast end of the El Mapa park. The casing around the bulb is charred and black. Past the streetlight, and half as tall, is a fence whose rungs catch trash that has been thrown from cars racing down the Vía Internacional. Since winter, the El Mapa park has been lined with tents, occupied with precisely the hodge-podge composition of life that public spaces across the world have been designed to drive out, or extinguish. Mexican deportees, Central American refugees from the migrant caravans, and homeless residents of Tijuana live in the park despite constant harassment from police and extortion from street-level gangs. It was here that just last week—last Tuesday, February 12th—police seized the tents, clothing, and blankets of El Mapa’s residents, piled them high in the southeast corners of the park, and set them aflame in a fire so hot and massive that the blackened, soot-covered street lamp shines only a faint light on the camp at night. The next day, only a few tents and a handful of people remained in the park.

“We go to the fire department and tell them, but they laugh,” one man says, pointing to the bright red building one lot down from El Mapa. The words on the building read “Central Bomberos”, the central Tijuana fire department.

The night of fires was followed by a day of high winds and then rain. Ashes are scattered across the paving stones and form black streaks on the nearest line of tents. Another man sweeps a broom across the ground, tenderly picking up the trash that has drifted in from the highway. What is left of his clothing and blankets hang on the fence to dry. “I lived in Virginia for almost twenty years,” he says. “That was home.”

A woman’s heaving coughs reverberate from a tarp-covered tent. A medic taps on the tent and peeks in to offer medicine, “This should help. You can take it once a day with water.” She says that there is no more water, and she’s right. The medic asks her what happened to the water tank that people brought in January. “The police took it when they set the fires,” she says.

A few days later, there are more tents in the park. A man is hammering flat the nails of a wooden pallet with a paving stone pried from the small plaza. He is building a foundation for his tent to keep it out of the puddles that formed with the last rain, and other people are starting to do the same. There is another fire burning at El Mapa, its embers spread across the park: “We began this together, and we will end it together.”

- The Fires of El Mapa