Cant remember the name or site of what im looking for

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by jo_k_er_man, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. it was a chart that compared bioavailability of opioids by IV IR IM.. anyone help me out?
     
  2. sellekenblour

    sellekenblour Member

  3. no,.. but thanks anyways.. it was posted either in this forum or the pharmaceutical forum awhile back
     
  4. n/m i found it.. it was as easy as searching for "chart" i self doubted and figured i wouldnt find it with such vagueness
     
  5. does2

    does2 Member

  6. china_white

    china_white Banned

  7. patHAOomg

    patHAOomg Member

    i know exactly what site you are referring to, but i've been looking for it for forever, since i found it the last time.

    i wish i wasn't oped up when i found it last time because i might have done the smart thing and BOOKMARKED THE DAMN PAGE lol
     
  8. Euphorial

    Euphorial Member

    haha awesome, so I'm not the only one who has found that :D

    When I first discovered that I just played around with it lol.
     
  9. Feelings Of U4ia

    Feelings Of U4ia Senior Member

    Remember guys, that is for analgesia, not for buzz...so it doesn't help too much unless you are looking for ONLY pain relief conversions.
     
  10. Euphorial

    Euphorial Member

    Ah, yes... +1 :D
     
  11. china_white

    china_white Banned

    yes i know, but its better then nothing for dose conversion
     
  12. Feelings Of U4ia

    Feelings Of U4ia Senior Member

    It's better then nothing, but it really doesn't work well if you are trying to actually convert buzz vs. buzz....

    It's actually really off if you think about it. Try a couple conversions yourself, of things you have done. You will see what I mean...it's WAY off in terms of buzz.

    Take for instance Fentanyl. It has AMAZING analgesia potential, and the most MINUSCULE amount will relieve pain, but it will take much more to actually give you a buzz. The conversion from Oxycodone to Fentanyl and visa versa is alllllll fucked up.

    Not to mention, that converter doesn't have most of the ROA's that WE use, haha.
     
  13. china_white

    china_white Banned

    thats true, but if you have nothing to base it on you atleast have a starting point to discover your proper dose.
     
  14. Feelings Of U4ia

    Feelings Of U4ia Senior Member

    Yeah, I've used it for that, a starting point, I just want to make it clear that it's analgesia, not buzz. When I first found this, I didn't realize that, because I never read anything, lol.
     
  15. china_white

    china_white Banned

    haha well it doesn't take to long to figure that one out
     
  16. i dunno some of it relatively converts to buzz worthy ness.. i'd have to look back exactly but.. im pretty sure it has dilly about 2-3X stronger than oxy.. and opana about 4-6X stronger than oxy.. which are both relatively correct in my experiences
     
  17. Feelings Of U4ia

    Feelings Of U4ia Senior Member



    ^If you are already high it does.

    Haha.
     
  18. Feelings Of U4ia

    Feelings Of U4ia Senior Member

    Dilly = 2 to 3 times stronger then oxy, but how would you convert that buzz wise? You have to take into account bioavailability, and route of administration to. Dillys have HORRIBLE oral bioavailability.

    If dilly is 2 times stronger, then 10mg of Dilly would equal 5mg of Oxycodone, which is not even close to correct...

    That's what I mean, it's really hard to work it out, because of the BA and ROA factors.
     

  19. 2-3x stronger would mean 10mg of dilly would approximently be about 20-30mg of oxy
     
  20. im talkin about IN
     

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