cannabis legalisation in the uk, please SIGN!

yea and for every1 of those theres 50 that do want it

 

it says petition to legalise

 

Which basically rations out to:-
One thoughtful stoner : 50 thoughtless stoners

It would destroy everything.

 

heres a bunch of other pettitions with alot lower signature numbers, so sign them if they appeal to you more:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Cannabisreg/

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Cannabis

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/coffeeshops

 

waht would it destroy? i dont understand why so many people are against it?

so what if they tax and all that, im pretty sure the price will be lower since theire wont be risks growing, transporting and dealing it

i dont get it, how could it be worse than teens ruining their lives with a shitty crime record for a joint, or someone getting busted after just buying an eight and a tens, which came seperately and being charged with intent to distribute, how could it be worse that having soapbar and weed with glass shit sprayed all over it. if someone wants to get weed, they will find a way- smoking weed with fuck knows whats been put into it to make it weigh more, when it all could be controlled.

what the hell happened with magic mushrooms? why did they suddenly become class a if theyre harmless, how many people are going to die poisoning themselves from being sold or picking the wrong mushrooms now, how mnay people are going to scre up their brains from hash wich has had shoe polish put into it without them even knowing.

i dont know, id say it cant be worse than all of this bullshit

 

I see your logic but think about the negatives of legalisation. I bet there'd be a rise in sex crimes. Crime rate as a whole would probably soar. I don't know if you are from the U.K. but there's a lifestyle known as "Chavs". These little bastards where tracksuits and tuck their pants into their socks, and also where burbery caps. "Chav" stand for "Council Housed and Violent" - and they are living hell. If pot was legalised, it'd send Chavs spiralling out of control and give them sharper ideas on causing shit. They'd also most likely be robbing more to get money to buy stuff that's widely available. And if it's legalised, it won't be shit rocky on the shelves, it'll be a variety of hash and skunk products probably so of course they're gonna need to rob more.
There's enough people in this country on the dole, getting income support from the Jobseekers Allowance. Introducing the legalisation of Cannabis to the society will see a hell of a lot more teenagers that drop out of college, go on the dole for a year, spend their money on blow and then decide it's a good idea to stay on the dole.
These are a few reasons, but Christ man - you're asking me why I'm against legalisation when the answers are sheer initiative. Next time you're having a smoke, put your stoner mind to it and see where I'm coming from.
Don't get me wrong, pot used to be my life and now has an important part in it.
But legalisation will definitely see abuse.

 

^ yea i am from uk, and know of chavs, but if they want to robb, they do it anyway.
theire will always be college and school drop-outs for various reasons, some crazy dumbass gamers who would rather spend ll theire time playing shit like world of warcraft, others alcoholics, others lazy fucks. there will always be bad shit happening and you do have a point but letting them ruin it for everyone else is just mad.
yea ok there will be people devoted to smoking weed all of the time, but theres peopl like that allready, difference is while they could be smoking clean weed theire now sometimes getting shite. there will always be bad and dumb people in the world, but the world doesnt have to revolve just around them, and chavs are a huge problem whether theire stoned off theire heads or not

 

As I said, I see your logic - and you said I have a point, so it seems now we understand each other.
I have thought many times about the advantages of Cannabis legalisation, but I can see far more disadvantages.
Doesn't matter what I think anyway, it's not going to affect a government decision.

Oh, and why did they ban the mushrooms? Psilocybin. They found new information out about the drug and also, have you ever experienced a HEAVY shroom trip? (Long lasting with bad trips, good trips, and everything) If so, you should be well aware of why they banned them. But so true on the part about people picking poisonous ones. It's outrageous.

 

^ive never tried mushrooms, but by all the info i read on them theire pretty harmless if used properly. yea i know of bad trips and doing mad shit on high doses, but this is gonna happen whether the drugs legal or not, also it clearly says everywhere to take in a nice setting, with a trip sitter on an open or happy mind, i dunno

also its not just mushrooms, even them legal highs are slowly becoming illegal, even the ones that are suppose to reduce the intake of illegal drugs, like on these different ites u can get pills with natural clean ingredients which give similar effects to extacy, hollucogenic natural pills and all that. its just the government trying to stop everything before even breathing will become illegal.

have u heard than october 07 the legal smoking age in uk will be 18, so what will all the 16 year olds have to do? quit?, i know they can still get it but still. also i hear all this bullshit about them banning smoking in all public places not just pubs that serve food. so basicly u wont be able to walk down the street with a cigg. the law is becomgn outragously fucked up, i mean how long till' tobbaco becomes illegal

 

you can't really think that legalization will lead to an increase in rapes and murders. complete bullshit force fed to you through the telly. turn off the tv and go smoke a joint by some trees. this is the same bullshit people said when they wanted to keep prohibition alive in the states.

 

What the fuck are you chatting now? Please credit me with a bit more sense than to follow ANYTHING that might intentionally be 'force fed' to me through the telly. For Christ's sake, what is one of weed's common properties? Boosting the sex drive! Have you ever had stoned sex? It's much much more enhanced. THC is known to rapidly boost the heart rate, sending more blood to various parts of the body including the genitals. It's fucking Science, not over-hyped media bullshit. Nowhere did I mention that the murder rate would increase, so please re-check. I mentioned the crime rate would increase and I'm talking about petty crime, not murder.

Turn off the T.V. and go and smoke a joint by some trees? - Oh mate - if only you knew. I spend 1-2 hours smoking in a peaceful woodland area most days listening to tunes or just the sound of the stream that trickles next to the spot I toke up in, forming self-inspiring thought and thinking things through with multiple perception. So don't lecture me on where and how to smoke weed because 7 years experience didn't just appear yesterday.

 

psygrunge, so do u suggest we stop all attempts and just leave it as it is, wont this just show the governement noones bothered and make it class b or even class a for some bizzare reason.

i dont know, but i dont think a stoned pothead is too dangerous, i mean theire slow, cant think clearly and basicly every woman would be able to hit them and run off and every store owner or coffeeshop owner would probably catch up with a worn out dude thats probably burnt out :S

 

I think it's the other way round, that the government enforces the law when people ARE bothered.

 

erm^ i dont understand.

everyone carries on buying shit weed, sopabar and poisonous shrooms, without campaigning, voting or protesting- the government continues to brainwash uneducated public with FRANK and all other bollocks- and this is supposed to unenforce the law???

im pretty sure its all about showing how many people care and understand, showing the numbers of the public wishing to have changes. i dont think doing nothing will prevent marijuana's further mockery. i mean have u even been on talktoFRANK's site, all this shit about buying new brains and all the unproven crap about dangers for health- most of which is rediculous, i wonder why they dont write because of the substance being illegal smoking sprayed shit will cause more damage than possible daily use :S

 

Oh well

 

oh you make complete sense. sex crimes will rise because there is an increase in bloodflow to my penis because i'm high. but it does sound like you have a nice place to go. it's just that i can't think of one problem with legalization. well, a reasonable one other. i know a bunch of problems with the current laws. i'm willing to listen if you want to tell, but it's just because we look exactly alike. not really, but damn if we don't..........

 

Sex crimes won't rise because THC increases bloodflow to your penis. I said 'I bet there'd be a rise in sex crimes', as Cannabis boosts your sex drive. Really good strains of Sensimilian can get you horny as hell, as can Cannabis oils/resins scraped from pipes and bongs. The fact that some strains of Cannabis are more than capable of producing sexual desires means yes, I am talking sense. Why twist what I'm saying?
As for "i'm willing to listen if you want to tell, but it's just because we look exactly alike. not really, but damn if we don't.........." - What??

 

i guess i'm just having trouble trying to figure out why someone who smokes would not want legalization. it seems like no one cares about anything until they are directly involved. i use to think that only the dumb would get caught. i completely forgot about the narcs who are trying to be fine citizens. with the last quote i was trying to understand a possible negative effect from legalization. the only thing that would really happen would be the corporate use of chemicals on some good weed and maybe some bad environmental practices. there's no way you can convince me that legalization will make men horny rapists. i know you are not saying that directly, just trying to show that you think it could happen. oh yeah, i was also trying to say how i look exactly like the picture that shows up with your signature. i was assuming it was you.

 

Yes, me it is, smoking a fine cone with a 1/4oz of pollen.
I'm a drastic pothead (mind you, haven't been STONED in about 3 days. Had a joint of thai last night tho) but I think legalisation will introduce weed to the wrong type of people. I just think legalisation will bring abuse to the plant in this country. Holland's laws tolerate Cannabis (although technically it's not legalised there either) but Holland is a completely different kind of place to the U.K. with completely different kinds of people.
I agree with a lot of things about legalisation, but also think that it would get out of hand in the SHITE HOLE that is the United Kingdom. The society is getting out of hand, it's getting more violent by the day. YES, I see that Cannabis use (legally) will bring waves of peace about the country, but at the same time legalisation could be the key to many more problems.
I'd also like to add that neither of us are right in what we say. We are acting on predictions, and until the herb IS legalised in the U.K. (which I highly doubt will ever happen) none of us can really say what will happen, we can just voice our opinions.
Do you see where I'm coming from? Do you understand what a shitty place the United Kingdom is? There's a constant increase on crimes and now, with the huge numbers of Polish, Iraqis, Latvians and even Romanians flooding the country, nicking all the jobs, there is a huge amount of racism and in my town alone there have been multiple scenarios which have seen foreigners getting the living FUCK pounded out of them by gangs that think they are the all-time shit.

I'm just putting initiative with what's all around us in Britain, so hope this helps you figure out why this heavy pot smoking Briton is not too cool with the legalisation of the herb.

 

^ fuck me, now i realise what a fucktard you are.

first of all, even though there are plenty of bad aspects to uk, i still love it, its my country and birth place, i say if u dont like- go somewhere else.

also how THE FUCK DARE you say that all of the listed immigrants are nicking jobs. just because ur too retarded to get some decent education or look and land a decent job doesnt mean its not there or that all of it has been stolen.

incase you dont know brittain's population is becoming fucked up, by that i mean there is a huge rise in old people and deaths while the young and birth rates are dropping.- if it werent for these immigrants our economy would decrease in time and what the fuck would u do then. the only reason these people come here is because they cant make a living in their country, its hardly any of theire fault that theire fucked up government has ruined it for everyone. like the polish and the latvians for one- was it theyre foult they got invaded by russians and had theire countries ruoined by communist turnin ghtme into drinkers. so what, they come to brittain, become plumbers, builders and street cleaners trying to make money for theire families and making a life for themselves (and yea there are rare exceptions but they mainly take the low income, hard and filthy work jobs which require no or hardly any english skills and no self-respecting brittish person should take). i think i understand now, i bet u was against the countries becoming part of european union cuz u knew this place would get flooded, but what do u see- so these people got beaten up, they will probs move or something still better than them starving thanx to communism which never fucking works. man that statement, from all the respect i had for you showing a fair arguement is drained, and i dont give a flying fuck about ur 7 years experience of 'pot smoking' because its about how and not for howlong, still with all the racism and that shit, ask those people are they happy for the change, are they happy to be here??? what would theire answer be, yea cuz its still better. and incase u didnt notice this also they were here illegaly before then also, just like cannabis, and even tho there was change- its still better.

man u say u have experience and all that, yet it seems this is all that u have, 7 years on ur forehead-no real decent contributions. dont judge people or assume its bollocks cuz of theire age or 'experience', yea these are the main ways of recognising someone who is wise, but u can have sometimes have a n00b prove a pro wrong.

^and i dont know if u noticed but i allready said, if a stoned breh tries raping someone, even managing to bypass the paranoya of getting caught, how will a normal person not manage to hit a stoned one and run off to get help. ^ were not talking about a drunk dude which is 99% aggresive and dangerous.

so yea :sabres: :sabres: :sabres: