Canada, you need to get firmer.

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Cate8, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. lovelyxmalia

    lovelyxmalia Banana Hammock Lifetime Supporter

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    And no one is wrong. I feel strongly about this topic because I see these things happen regularly...a lot of us do, but we don't realize it.

    I respect each opinion in here. I'm very big on fairness for every person in this world! Not just singling this country out. Abolishing slavery, allowing immigration, the steps we're still taking to treat everyone equal in America...that's what fairness is...maybe something should be put into place to help speed up legal immigration...but is that a priority for the US government? No way!
     
  2. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    I like intense!

    I think you idea about assimilating into society is fine.

    When I am in other countries I speak their language or learn it.

    I also observe local customs.

    I do not think any of the intensity is directed at you.

    Sit back and enjoy the fireworks!:)
     
  3. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    of course, and thats great progress!

    however, i know plenty people, especially at this school who'd just as much as make a steak dinner go sit at the border with a .50 cal rifle and shoot all illegals - now thats ignorant. we got these minute men protecting the borders.

    but this country is more interested in nation building outside the US, where it should be focused on nation building inside the US
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    You can have a thousand idiots with guns sitting on the boarder, but the immigrants will still somehow magically get in, just like the drugs magically get in.

    But yes, you're right. This country is dooming itself by ignoring itself. Such a funny paradox.
     
  5. lovelyxmalia

    lovelyxmalia Banana Hammock Lifetime Supporter

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    and THAT is the main problem. We play "hero" for everyone else when we have these issues with illegal immigrants, the threat of a recession, etc.

    I have a feeling some of these illegal immigrants are taking advantage of sneaking in-from all over-because America is vulnerable due to the fact that we are too busy fixing everyone elses problems and ignoring our own.
     
  6. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    i know they'll still getting in...just displaying some of the extreme ignorant comments i've encountered. its such a shame. a whole world out there :(
     
  7. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    ;) Im no good with conflict, I tend to have this natural reaction to resolve, keep the peace !
     
  8. lode

    lode Banned

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    :nods:

    Immigration is oft discouraged by xenophobia.

    Certainly we can't let in everybody all at once. Nobody's suggesting that.

    I am suggesting that the reason that immigration is so heavily encouraged is the fact that the work is clearly needed. Immigrants are clearly willing to do the labor. And assimilating completly doesn't happen over night.

    It takes a couple generations. To suggest that your society isn't strong enough to handle that, doesn't say a lot about the society you say you're trying to protect by encouaraging stict immigration policies.
     
  9. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    With an issue like immigration there is no way to keep the peace.

    People have strong opinions.
     
  10. BraveSirRubin

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    Gonna go shoot some wetbacks while I drink this 30 pack of Natty Ice :D

    I don't know where you got this antagonizing view of illegal immigrants.

    Most of them send half of their bloody paycheck back to Mexico just to feed their family.

    I'm not saying all of them are good people, but honestly... they're people. They aren't evil, and they're not trying to take advantage of your precious America.
     
  11. lode

    lode Banned

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    And not everybody comes in illegally by hoping the border. A much larger percentage overstay work visas.

    Because we want their work!
     
  12. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    tis why its pretty funny watching the MM guard the borders
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    Yep.

    So dear people, do yourself and the world a favour.

    ...and go and take out an illegal immigrant for a beer. (No, Mexicans don't like Corona... that's actually how they steal money from you... by making you drink their piss while telling you it's beer :D)
     
  14. lode

    lode Banned

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    Corona is water flavored beer.

    And the minute men are kinda amusing... but more overtly racist.
     
  15. lovelyxmalia

    lovelyxmalia Banana Hammock Lifetime Supporter

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    And I'm not saying they're all evil. However, they call it illegal immigrant for a reason. My uncle was considered an illegal immigrant before he went back to Italy. He went through everything he had to and was just waiting for an answer. Then, he got married and moved back to Italy. And my opinion doesn't change for him, either. He was considered an illegal immigrant.
     
  16. BraveSirRubin

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    ...and black people used to be considered inferior.
    ...people who smoke pot are considered to be criminals.
    ...women, such as yourself, used to not be able to get a job.

    But society makes progress. Your mentality prevents such progress. They will never become legal as long as people keep on insisting on calling them illegal and stereotyping them based on that.
     
  17. lode

    lode Banned

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    So you called him out on taking jobs away from Americans then? Threatened to call le Migra?
     
  18. lovelyxmalia

    lovelyxmalia Banana Hammock Lifetime Supporter

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    When there is a system in place to help legalizing the citizenship of these people quicker...then yes...I'll be for it. In the meantime, they are illegal immigrants. I'm not hindering any progress in society...I'm not saying they should all be shot as soon as they cross the border/get off the plane/their work visa ran up/whatever the case may be...I'm saying that until that time...these loose regulations are going to keep this going.

    And I understand and stated earlier that there has been a lot of progress when it comes to minorities, etc. There is a place for these people to become citizens...it's just getting them to that point...which I understand, is merely impossible.

    And I will stress this point again....I don't think they are all bad. I don't think they are all here for no reason...majority of them are here to accomplish goals, chase dreams, etc. However, they are doing this in the wrong way. And I'm not only speaking of Mexicans, I'm speaking of all immigrants. It seems...in my area anyway...that they cause more problems then they do any good...when it comes to college, taxes, work, etc.

    And yes, lode, in 1978, before I was even a mere thought, I threatened to call le Migra on my uncle.
     
  19. lode

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    Would you now?
     
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