Canada could be the first country in the developed world to decriminalize polygamy.

Perhaps we should make it so that gay people can only marry after their childbearing years then?

What is up with you thinking it makes sense to put any other criteria on polygamy (or any other type of marriage or relationship) then that all members must be adults?

 

No need to apologize for something you didn't do... I don't mind discussing these issues or I wouldn't have posted it in the first place... I will admit that I would have preferred it went slightly different then it did, but it got the issue cleared out anyway.

Besides, even if it was apology worthy, I'd forgive you without it.

But thats only because you are one of a special few... lol

(just in case others took that as me getting soft)

 

It's always easier to pee when you go soft...

 

Why do you set yourself up like this?

 

What have I set myself up for?


To answer your question, I just like to make myself laugh


Didn't mean to take away from your thread.

 

There are exercise that you can do to help learn to control things like that...

The same lessons also help in the enjoyment of sex, for everyone involved.

But I'm sure you already knew that.... right?

 

I personally can't at all comprehend the appeal of polygamy. I just don't get it. But whatever consenting adults want to do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone is fine with me.

 

lol


I think I've heard that.

 

On a more serious note, it's funny this thread came up, as I've been thinking a lot about this lately. Coincidental timing. The other night I was watching a show on TLC (I don't normally watch so leave me alone), about a polygamist family.


I find it interesting to note the way society responds to polygamy. We, for the most part promote treating others with respect, christians value like treat others the way you want to be treated, and even the "hippie" movement of the 1960s taught us to, "Smile on your brother, ev'rybody get together, try and love one another right now."

Yet most are inclined to see polygamy as something odd, or at least out of the ordinary. I was thinking the other night though, isn't that sort of mentality pretty well exactly what all these different "doctrines" have been teaching us about. I thought to myself how polygamists must be the most loving people you could want to find. Do you know how hard it must be to love multiple spouses? There are times I've hated the one person I was with at the time.

And not only that, the kids in the family essentially have X number of mothers who love them, care for them, etc. just as thought they're all their own kids. It's just a bunch of people extending their love to X number of people. That can't be easy. It's hard enough, exhausting enough, and just plain enough trying to love one other person, plus your kids if you have any.


Anyways, thats just something I've been thinking about the past two days, so I found it a surprising coincidence when this thread came up, I was thinking about starting a polygamy thread. I just think that they must be special people with a lot of love to give if they can successfully extend it to that many people. Not everyone could do that. It just seems like they sort of have the right idea, with regards to loving everyone as though they're family.

Due to the christian influence on society however, and whatever else was around before that that preached marriage, we as a society are so ingrained to love only another as our partner in life. We've become very, (I hate to use the word possessive but I can't think of anything that means the same but to a less degree), possessive because of it. Our partner is our partner, not a partner.


Just my thoughts on the matter.

 

Your secret is safe with me. I will not even mention being a gentleman as that is bound to be even harder to keep secret.

Thank you Tom.

 

What about spousal benefits? Do they split medical care? Double the coverage? Who pays?

 

That'd be figured out in time no doubt.

 

I got a couple of chuckles out of this...

I have never found it hard to love more then one person... One might even say I find it comes quite naturally... Must be my loving nature... lol

As for the kids issue... call me silly, but the more heads and hands you have around to look after kids, the better... How many kids get left at home alone long before they should because both parents are out working? Or one gets called away to something? What happens when one parent is having a bad day?

How much easier are all those things if there are 3, 4 or more people sharing that?

How much easier is life in general if you have more people sharing it?

If there are three (a triad), if you need more money, two can be out working and one stay home, or two can be working at home while the third is out... Or all three could work together in a business run from home.

What happens when you are in a 'normal' relationship and you have a bad day and you just want to be left alone? You guarentee that your partner is left alone too... With three, there is a much greater chance of each having the time alone that humans need.

And so on and so forth...

My favorite is of course the three legged stool... How much easier is it to sit comfortably and relaxed on a three legged stool then it is on one with two legs?

Nobody would believe you anyway

 

I'd share the girls skepticism at how such laws would be used.

Older guy that gets a bunch of wives, some of whom in that 18 - 25 range, get swindled by the charm, then after a while he gets bored of them, finds another young wife, the first set then becomes the Jan Bradys, missed out on the chance to land a guy in a mono marriage that is going to stick with her until death do them part, and then stuck doing the younger girls laundry whilst they head off to aspen.

Ok, might not always turn out that way, but thats the fear.


Setting the minimum polygamy age at 30, its not that much of a far out concept is it.

But its all kind of irrelevant, its an issue that in the end is going to be decided by the female half of the population without you even realising it, Just as the gay marriage issue is

 

That's an infringement on basic human rights. And chances are that if a woman got into a poly marriage, she wouldn't be crying later abut how all her good mono marriage years are gone.

Men break up with their wives for something younger all the time. That's life, and it has absolutely nothing to do with polygamy. It's absurd that you even managed to draw that conclusion.

What you're talking about is a trait of human nature and it pertains to every kind of intimate human relationship, regardless of age, orientation, or kind of commitment.

 

How is it a human rights violation?

There are age variants for all kinds of things;

In my country 16 for sex, 17 for voting, 18 for drinking 21 in other countries, 25 for some licenses, 54 miliatry service, 65 retirement

If it happens all the time then its going to have something to do with any type of marriage, so not that absurd

 

cool, consenting adults should be able to create a contract without fear of government impairment.

 

What you seem to be trying very hard to avoid is the discrimination part.

If the law was, you must wait til you are 30 to get married... that fine... nothing more wrong with it then there is with putting other age limits on anything (as you suggested)...

HOWEVER, when a law singles out a specific group that is allowed to do something while allowing other groups to do so, then it IS discrimination AND a violating of our rights.

But you already know these things... They apply the same to gay rights as well....

Which makes all this seem like little more then you trying to be an ass about it all...

 

Marriage in the US and Canada is a defined legal concept for splitting property and legal rights between a couple. Whether the couple is a man and woman, man and man, or man and transvestite, is no problem. And there is no problem with polyamorous relationships, where married people want to pursue other partners.

But the definition of legal partnership between three people or more is simply ridiculous. It's based on ancient customs only held today by Mormons and Islamic immigrants. If they want to be in polyamorous relationships, than that's wonderful.

But multiple partnerships shouldn't get the same legal protections as marriages.

For Lunaverse, a conspiracy theorist who protests to be rabidly against most forms of government intervention to say, 'don't worry, the legal ramifications will be figured out in no time' is slightly hypocritical. Unless I misunderstand his position...

Bullshit all around. If you love someone, marry them don't marry them. But don't collect wifes like their your fucking trophies.

 

why not?

if marriage is about joining legal and financial assets/obligations, how is it any different than a business contract between multiple partners.

sound like you are letting your own beliefs and morals get in the way of the definition.