Can you have unity with people that want to overthrow the Union?

Discussion in 'Democracy' started by Balbus, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. soulpoker

    soulpoker Senior Member

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    This is why I'm done with Republicans. Now it goes beyond being disagreeable with my convictions. Now they're simply batshit crazy to put it bluntly.
    It used to be you could argue each major US political party was opposite sides of the same coin. You can't say that anymore. As corrupt as the Democrats (and Republicans in the past) might be, what has become of the Gullible Old Party is a shit show/horror show. It's not a matter of simple or even complicated disagreement anymore. They won't even acknowledge basic facts. I wish I were kidding or exaggerating.
    I pray the Romneys and Bushes and Cheneys and McCains have the dedication and fortitude to separate decisively from this political pestilence (and it is a veritable pestilence) to establish a partisan presence, whether it be with purging of Mensa material like MT Greene or fleeing from the insanity and finding their own political corner, and cooperate with Democrats to rid America of this stain, so that we can continue to disagree with each other but at least both accept reality as the battlefield.
     
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  2. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Welcome to the daylight of reason and reasonableness !!!
     
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  3. Tishomingo

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    A minimum consensus on the rules of the game and a sense that, despite our differences, we're still Americans who have the good of the country at heart is essential if our system of government is to work. But as the saying goes, it takes "two to tango". If one party is determined to treat the other as pedophilic baby-eating demons, trying to work with them is futile.
     
  4. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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  5. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    “I don’t know what you tell the people that live at the southern border. I guess they better arm up and get guns and be ready, and maybe they’re going to have to start taking matters into their own hands.”
    Laura Trump; Fox News



     
  6. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    And they will do just that.

    These people are not very bright.
     
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  7. soulpoker

    soulpoker Senior Member

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    Violent too. Not a good combination.
     
  8. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Extremist rhetoric from rightwing media and officials is ‘intensifying’, experts say

    The U.S. had entered an environment “where the Fox base” prefers “propagandistic opinion shows rather than any semblance of news”.
    “People want to be lied to, and it’s above my head to know what to do about that. What do we do about that, when millions of people want to be lied to every day?”
    Brian Stelter, CNN

    The “inevitable consequence” is “that there’s going to be more violence”.
    Angelo Carusone, Media Matters
     
  9. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Trumpist terrorism is becoming normalized

    Trump Is Marching Down the Road to Political Violence

    “the FBI assesses there is an elevated threat of violence from domestic violent extremists, and some of these actors have been emboldened in the aftermath of the breach of the U.S. Capitol. We expect [that] racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, anti-government or anti-authority violent extremists, and other domestic violent extremists citing partisan political grievances will very likely pose the greatest domestic terrorism threats in 2021 and likely into 2022.”
     
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  10. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    I just don't understand what they hope to accomplish or what their end game is. At the very least it will turn the economy upside down and many of them will lose their jobs. So you mobbed the Capitol. What were you going to do there, actually drag Pelosi out an beat her? Then what ? Did they ever think about the shit storm that would have followed?
     
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  11. soulpoker

    soulpoker Senior Member

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    That's OK. They felt very good about themselves for the moment. And that's all that matters, riiiiight?
     
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  12. erofant

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    I think some factions REALLY want a shooting war to happen here in the U.S. But they aren't the only ones who know how to shoot - extremely well.
     
  13. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    But what's their end game, have they thought about it? Only so many can live off the land for so long. Guess who has more guns...they just haven't though it through - for them and the rest of the world that will have to pick up the pieces.
     
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  14. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Two

    8th November 1923, Germany

    The beer hall putsch failed too…people went to prison….
     
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  15. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    They get to play "Rambo" with live ammo... Beyond that, I doubt they care much.
     
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  16. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    When snow shuts the roads down 'round here, the same prepper plastic patriots who think they'll survive WWIII living off their stockpile of Beanie Weenies in their basement actually last about three hours before they get cabin fever and run out of cigarettes & Bud Lite.
     
  17. Toecutter

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    Not everyone, I enjoy it when things get shut down for a few days
     
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  18. erofant

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    I've seen grown men with AR-15's rattling off shots giggling like school kids with a truck full of chocolate. ( I'm NOT joking.) This ^^^^^^^^ quote is accurate. And no ........... they haven't thought it through. These types struggled to get through high school. They demonstrate their intellect when they TRY to construct a sentence that has a point to it. They can tell you who has the best price on beer or cigarettes, but beyond that ........ not much of any consequence.
     
  19. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    No unity.........................

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  20. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    I have a right winger colleague with the job. He never ever misses a chance to get a stab in on the left, ever. Yesterday, he started in on the testimonies, "those guys are all ANTIFA".....I hung up on him.
     

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