Can we not make anything in the US?

This is funny. Unions are almost a non-factor anymore in this country (compare it with Germany, which is INFINITELY more industrialized than this country is and INFINITELY more unionized as well) and they are not responsible for the fact that the U.S. became an unproductive society.

I would look elsewhere...

Clinton's NAFTA for one.

But it goes back further, Nixon's axing the Bretton Woods system, Carter's de-industrialization policy, Reagan's free trade policies aping Thatcher's...

And really, nothing has happened politically in this country since Reagan. Everything is following along the lines of Reaganism. Democrat or Republican.

So...if the dollar collapses, Hillary or no Hillary, we shouldn't pretend not to know why.

 

We don't need to import lumber either. Canada just has dirty lumber policies which make it cheap.

Lousy no good Canadians.

 

Really, all these environmental policies are overdone.

It's funny they peg industry for environmental boo boos and do absolutely nothing about our car culture, which is primarily reponsible for pollution.

Why? Because an industrial society requires that the state be involved in economic infrastructure. And Wall Street says the gov'ment is the devil. It gets in the way of increasing inequality.

No wonder they put so much money into environmental groups.

I don't trust the environmental lobby at all.

Suburbanize, de-industrialize, and build roads as opposed to rail. This is why The New York Times spends so much time now worrying about China's environment. They went the other way, and they are now an economic threat.

Which is just as good.

 

i'm just saying...we still use raw material to make stuff here

not really wanting to get too invovled with policies and what not right now

 

We can make anything in the US it would just cost to much to do it. Could you imagine how expensive that DVD would be if it was made in the US or anything relatively cheap that's from say China? Way to much for us to want to buy it that's for sure, oh well that's how it is.

 

Well, actually, people earned more (proportionately) when this was an industrialized country, so the above argument is mute.

I'm talking about buying power here, not figures.

Sometimes that's hard to get across because our newspaper analyst geniuses have us accustomed to thinking about the economy monetarily rather than in terms of physical well-being.

 

I am shocked. Shocked and horrified at these accusations :tongue:

 

US use to make things, but then sent their jobs over seas to expand profit.

 

But not before they bought the two major parties into lowering tariffs.

Tariffs was an economic given for at least a century. Suddenly, it's taboo and archaic...lol.

If there are tariffs, there is no way multi-nationals can profit at the expense of the rest of the population and the world.

 

ya...

There use to be an imperial tobacco in my city, this year they shipped the whole factory to mexico.

Along with several other well established companies, in exchange for a walmart, which only sells foreign made garbage.

 

for real. I mean look at Japan. We eliminated all the tariffs after WWII to allow their economy to recover, and we've never reinstated them. Meanwhile they have high tariffs and taxes on foriegn goods such as American cars to encourage domestic production. American industry doesn't stand a chance.

 

EXACTLY.

Here's a man knows what's what.