Can someone tell me..

Can someone tell me why that on a date, a man is the one who's expected to pay, drive, etc?? I'm not saying we all don't already know. But I would just like it be bluntly put out in the open for what it is for once. It would be interesting to see if people have the same.. or different reasons for it.

 

Because he's the fucking man. If you don't want to do it anymore, don't worry, there are a bunch of shithead postmodern philosophers out there who would like to have women become men and men become women and then you could have your date payed for, but, unless you want to be a woman, then, no, you gotta pay for dinner.

If you really want to save money though, we can start you on estrogen and HRT tomorrow!

 

Nobody has to do anything, you can do whatever you want. Do you really want to date a woman that expects you to pay for everything, though?

 

A lot of it is societal and cultural conditioning, and perhaps I myself am victim of it, but when I am with a woman I never let her pay for anything, unless she's shopping for herself or something. When it comes to going out to eat, the movies, bars, events, etc. I always pay, and would probably refuse to let the woman pay even if she offered, which has happened before. It just feels emasculating to me to make a woman pay when going out somewhere. I couldn't do it, unless maybe it was a long-term relationship. Besides, we all know that a woman's vagina is priceless, and that no amount of money is too much when it comes to getting laid.

 

Why it still is often expected is obvious I think, it comes from the traditional gender roles. As (many) women don't like to live in the overall restrictions these gender roles placed them in we should leave this traditional expection behind as well, IF we want to. In reality it seems many people still like this aspect, both men and women. I myself ideally don't participate in this. Nor does it appear to have to. Women who would cancel or leave a date out of principal if I just wanna mention we could split the bill in all fairness are not my type anyway.

 

#3. Do women like that still exist? I've met someone pretty cool. When things are going cool, being her man , you will WANT to do nice things for her. Included in those nice things would be buying dinners, clothes , flowers etc. She does not expect this , of course. I can assure you, your attention will be more than returned.

 

Tell that to the women who refuse to stay home with the kids, keep your kitchen and toilet bowl squeaky clean, and open their legs raw dog at the drop of a hat when you want them to or they'll get a beating.

And they even have the gall to keep you away from the whorehouse! You haven't proven to be a real man with me yet.

 

In courting men are competing against other men for a companion. They are trying to win the lady. Because its the traditional way to treat a lady. With courtesy and charm and resources. Dont forget though.....we bring a dowry!!!!!

 

I think whoever initiates the date should typically pay. I usually offer to chip in though. Like, if he gets the dinner check, I'll leave a tip, or if he gets the movie tickets, I'll get the popcorn, etc. But if I ask someone out, I automatically assume I'm paying for everything.

 

Please write thread titles that mean something. Otherwise, you are wasting the reader's time.

 

I have always paid because it is what I want to do..


Since I am married now, I guess, we both pay

 

hey I'm not saying women have to stay home in the kitchen and open their legs at the drop of a hat. I'm just saying that if yer going on a date, you should pay for the woman's food. If you're in a long term relationship and going out to lunch or something, sure, split the bill. But if you're dating a woman you've just met you should pretty much pick up the bill!

exactly.

 

noblesse oblege, i believe was the origeonal concept. the price of the once common pretense, that the male gender, among humans, was somehow superior to the female.
a pretense i believe began with greece and rome and christianity.

it hasn't completely gone away statistically. just as other prejudices have not completely either. but it is possible for individuals of both genders to choose not to perpetuate it. or any of the other of them.

 

I like the woman drive, while I pay. It's a win-win, she feels good, I feel good... plus, I get chauffeured.

 

what *mama* said..

 

I enjoy paying if I have the money,but think it's good to go Dutch sometimes.

 

If you're askin ; you're buyin. That's fair. Get to a point where such issues don't matter.

 

Becase a data is inherently a 'make believe this is our life' game you're trying to put on for a girl. When she pays for something she's reminded of real life, and your make believe life falls apart.

It's also why you don't sit around and argue about mortgages and her mother on the first date.

 

If some poor woman has to spend an evening with me then the least I can do is spare them a bill for it!

 

because if you don't, then some other guy will.

and if the date sucks, at least you can get shitfaced.