Can somebody explain death to the ego to me?

Yup, you have just become it.

The body can be doing anything, its irrelevant.

 

these all sound like great responses. I guess most of you are right that you can't comprehend it unless you've felt it. so maybe that explains why i've been so confused about it.

 

Nice man.



Everytime I ingest a psychedelic, I shoot for this. They all have their unique ways of eating you up.

 

living in "just" a universe :coffee:

 

I'm definatly going to shoot for this one of these times, or maybe it'll just happen. Anyway I read some stuff by Leary on it, but he didn't seem to make much sense

 

To me it's nothing much more than a state of thoughtless awareness. Very intense when mixed with LSD.

 

No. No one else can explain it to you.

 

I feel like this has actually happened to me. I tripped on 15gs of mushies and 2 double dipped tabs of LSD. As I came up on the trip, the usual things happened, colors were vivid and thoughts were spiraling into themselves. But then suddenly, as I lay on the beach, I witnessed all my memories pouring out of my own head, flowing into the sky as clouds. They swirled above me, showering me with images of my own life. Then suddenly, they dissapeared. I no longer had any remembrance of those memories of a past life. I no longer had a body, I was just a consciousness in the sky. I looked at the universe from a high perspective, watched as all life became one being. Every consciousness melded with mine. I literally was everything. My thoughts no longer focused on one single thing, they were everything all at once. Would this be considered ego death at all?

 

In the words of "The BeaTles" -
“When you see beyond yourself, then you will find,
Peace of mind is waiting there, and to see you’re really only very small and life goes on within and without you”
– It’s a profound thought to consider
iThinks
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I've experienced two different phenomena a few times.

I have been taken to a place/void that I can vaguely (very, very, very, very vaguely) remember what it was. There was no I nor was there any memory of anything involved with I/me (no images, views, thoughts, etc.).


On 4-aco-DMT, I have experienced a loss of other things. I have felt and seen the purest "me." There was a me. I had views, images and memories of everything about me. But, I saw what was really me and what was just learned/developed tendencies/views. Body language, paralinguistics, sense of humor, it was all broken down.


Both were earth shattering and profound. The latter was more memorable and coherent. Is there a difference between these two phenomena? Or, is the first just a higher plateau of the same phenomena (if that makes sense)?

 

I only read the first and last page of this thread, but one thing struck me.
The quote that said ego death may never be repeated with he drug.
I have tripped three times on acid, and numerous times on mushrooms, and I haven't experienced this yet.
But if I do experience it, and I want to experience it again, is it possible to?

Also, I was wondering if there is a standard range of dosage that induces this in people who haven't experienced it before. the most I have taken is three tabs of lsd that is supposed to be around 200ug, but Im just going to say it is for sure over 100ug.

I may have screwed myself because I went gradually into both mushrooms and lsd. Is it possible I will experience this, and how do I get there?

 

It will happen if there is enough wonder, if there is enough energy toward the understanding of things, if the right mind state is there, and if the right amount of material taken. Then it is possible to reach that ++++ state of oneness.

Go out in nature, prey to the gods, take a bath, listen to uplifting music, meditate, look and feel and get to know the ethnogen your about to take. Meditate with it, send your energy to it, feel its energy. For at least a week try to remain totally centered, just be.

When its time to ingest just be totally relaxed, surrender yourself completely, don't hold anything back, just let go, let the light take you.

You will literally be devoured in cosmic light, oceanic sized fields of pure white light filled with the energy of complete bliss love and understanding. Seek the truth, and the truth shall shine upon you.

 

explanations of ego death are ego, lol. you cannot explain something that is free from form. in the same way, actively seeking ego death is just going to provide more manifestations of ego. it's impossible to measure that which is immeasurable. we can only explain things that have come about as a result of ego death, like a leaf blowing in the wind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7epbdQ4YYI"]YouTube - Jefferson Airplane - Eskimo Blue Day

 

ummmmm.... What ?

 

a verifiable way of telling that there is wind is by measuring the effects. by seeing that leaves are blowing we can tell that there is wind, even though it would otherwise be invisible.

 

So how does that sort of empirical evidence relate to verifying ego death?

 

as a metaphor to correlate the state of egolessness to the ego.

 

A very sacred experience to have, I'm very grateful I got to experience ego death.

 

It seems to me people who've experienced ego death report the light almost all the time. Just beyond the realm of the archetypes, I met my death and was terrified at first, until I surrendered to it. Imagine if everyone had the privilege of the ego death experience?

 

@ Desos: If there is no way to measure then the metaphor falls short. I believe Essentially what you are saying is the aftermath of ego death is the only way to prove ego death occurred. You were at point A before the experience now you are at point B.

Unfortunately this line of thinking does not take into account other possible variables. So the direct metaphor with the leaves would be the leaves were at a point A and moved to a point B but with no possible way of measurement we can't tell if they moved there from the wind, from an animal, from a leaf blower etc.