Can God cure as well as kill? Should God kill or cure?

Which is a sign of hypocrisy.

My "we" refers to modern Gnostic Christians and the Cathars are the closest example of how we think that I have found.

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Is comparing the ideologies out there and deciding which are good and which are evil not a part of how yo decide what to endorse and what to condemn?

How should I feel about the religion that used their inquisition on the founders of what I see as a moral creed, compared to the one that used inquisitions to grow instead of good moral arguments?

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Humanity and their purpose are irrelevant after we die and when God is torturing us without a purpose in hell before killing us. That is the vile Christian dogma that I am criticizing.

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The vast majority of Christians are morons, but the vast majority of everyone is morons. I'm afraid it's a futile battle for the souls of men. Things are just going to keep being stupid forever.

 

I'm not interested in defining God.

You just ignore reasonable questions from others, and seek to evade them by going into attack mode. It's a pretty transparent strategy.

 

That is an extrememly simplistic and narrow view of history, stated in a non factual and polemical manner. Name the 'founders' on whom the inquisition was used. I just don't know who you mean. Not the founders of the Cathar movement, as their identities are not known, so who?

I'm just as horrified as the next person by the crimes of history, including those of the inqisition. But the kind of emotive attitude such as you display isn't useful where history is concerned.
Secular punishments in the middle ages were often just as bad as anything the church could dish out. But you don't condem the French Crown for ther atrocities against the Cathars I notice. But without the French, the church would hardly have been able to supress anything. Don't underestimate the political dimension of history.

As for your question as to how I decide what to accept and what to reject, I just rely on my own judgement and intelligence. My store of knowledge and experience built up over long years. Also conscience. And I'm guided by my own spiritual path, but not in the sense of ideology or dogma. More sensitivity and awareness.

 

But you do the same to your opponents, traditional Christians. You put them in the same box with Catholics whether or not they themselves were persecuted by that Church. Methodists, Quakers, UCC, etc. did Gnostics no harm And you put them in the same box with fundamentalists who believe in a literal hell and vicarious redemptive sacrifice, while ignoring the fact that Progressive Christians and Universalists don't believe those things. You have no monopoly on being ecclectic and you certainly aren't and ecumenist. You seem to think you have a monopoly on evolving in your beliefs, and deny the same prerogatives to Progressive Christians and process theologians who are likewise evolving spiritually. You seem stuck in the past, and hateful.

 

Whats the argument again as to why god just cant tell us directly?

Just hop on twitter like Trump does?

 

God eventually gets around to killing, EVERYONE!

Otherwise he would have blessed us each with Immortality – with life everlasting

 

Maybe because (S)he just can't, or doesn't want to.

 

Actually, with the numbers of religious falling at a nice pace, I think the tipping point to non-belief has been reached.
Happy days.

You see mostly correctly but are not seeing the healthy forest for the trees.

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Going to personal baiting is uncouth.

Show any reasonable question I ignored buddy. Make you lie a truth.

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You describe a Gnostic Christian.
You do not use the name of or God for yourself but as your ideal, that is what you are.

Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.

In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.


The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

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DL

 

Unfounded and unsupported assertions are for children. Thanks for your usual deflection.

Shove the rest of your personal garbage baiting. Child.

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DL

 

Yes and why would you want the curse of immortality?

Have you not read any Shangri-La stories.

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How rude of God.



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That's silly. God isn't any ruder than gravity or electromagnetism.

 

Ah, the artful dodger strikes again. You should be a politician. But you're not getting away with it. Folks notice.

 

You don't come on as a positive kind of Christian in any sense. You continually post negative stuff about Christianity. And it's simply more of the same old sectarian game - 'my version of Christianity is better than yours'. The fact you call it 'gnostic' is irrelevant.

 

But you make unfounded assertions, then when challenged try to divert attention away to some other issue.

Also, as one who claims to be a Christian you should recall that to enter the kingdom, you have to be 'as little children'. As you said elsewhere you've grown up.