Can a man be as addicted to alcohol as an heroin man to heroine?

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  1. Grandeur

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    If anybody watched "leaving las vegas", the guy is addicted to alcohol like an heroine man addicted to heroin.

    When he doesnt drink, his hands shake badly and he has to drink to turn to normal.

    He is an alcoholic but he is no different than a heroin addict in the movie. If he can't drink after he sobers up, his hands shake badly.

    I like this scene from the movie.

     
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  2. wilsjane

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    I would say yes. The affects are different, but the addiction is the same.

    In reality, all addictions are similar, it is just the results that differ.
     
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  3. Pete's Draggin'

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    I've watched it quite a few times
    I bought the movie soundtrack.

    Sting from The Police sings in it.
    Very romantic sadness.
     
  4. JRHardy

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    Ask Sid. He'd know.
     
  5. Grandeur

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    Who is he?
     
  6. JRHardy

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    Sid was a herion addict and the bassist for The Sex Pistols. The comment was kind of snarky. Apologies for the sarcasm.
     
  7. lode

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  8. guerillabedlam

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    Do you think psychological vs. physical addiction is a false dichotomy?

    In my experience, I've noticed a significant difference between a powerful psychologically addicting drug like Ketamine vs. drugs I'm not addicted to but overindulged in a time or two and experienced awful rebound effects like some obscure benzos or even recently phenibut, where it's recommend that you taper off them once you get caught in that heavy dose cycle.

    It's my impression that with Ketamine, it's practically all about psychological compulsion, as where I get the impression, at least with some Heroin addicts, it's almost as much about physical alleviation once they get caught up in heavy addiction. But I've never really been around Heroin or Benzo addicts much irl.
     
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  9. wilsjane

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    That is a complex question regarding the reasons behind addiction, but the answer is that drugs affect the brain and nervous system, so all addiction is psychological in real terms.

    Even when drugs are taken to suppress the pain of illness, they are not curing the condition. I doubt that anyone would be stupid enough to take drugs to suppress the pain of a broken leg and not get medical treatment for the injury. (If the did, the likely outcome would be infection, leading to septicemia and soon to death)
    However drugs taken to control the pain from conditions such as arthritis are a more complex issue.
    We have pain to stop us using an injured part of our body and since arthritis is drying out of the lubrication within a joint, over use of drugs allowing the joint full use, along with no attempt to resolve the issue with glucosamine sulphate and regular use of codliver oil would end up making the condition far worse.

    In a nutshell. If a person has no injury or physical illness, any drug is purely physiological. With pain and illness, the affects are purely physiological, but the reasons could be said to be physical.
    Needless to say, the issue is even more complex when drugs are used to maintain or alter body functions, particularly in cardiology, where highly specialist drugs can be used to boost base line arrhythmia. But I don't think that compound pharmaceutical drugs were the reason for your question, .
     
  10. I'minmyunderwear

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    isn't heroine man kind of an oxymoron? because by definition, the heroine is female.
     
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    alky and tobaki are physiological addictions. gender doesn't have much to do with anything, unless "man" was intended genderly generic.

    there are psych addictions too of course, and some people can and do suffer real physiological withdrawl symptoms from them.
    but alky and tobaki aren't just in the head, and tobaki is tied dead on with all opiates, their derivatives, and sythetic subtitutes for most addictive substance.

    and second hand smoke is poisonous too.

    now i'm not telling anyone what to do to themselves. the more people kill themselves with their pleasures the quicker, the more room that makes for the rest of us.
    just prefer not to have someone else make that choice for me with their thoughtlessness.

    not tryna be a saint either, just in no hurry to be dead.
     
  12. Grandeur

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    A guy found my facebook and threatening me saying you were walkin on the path with an alcoholic drink. He says we have wives, girls. He says if he sees me walking by drinking, he will beat me up so good.

    Turkey is full of barbaric people.
     
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  13. tumbling.dice

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    One of my fave movies of all time. I'm an alcoholic; something about that movie is alluring...erotic almost. I would love to drink myself to death.
     
  14. GLENGLEN

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    The Answer To This Is Simple.................Don't Drink In A Public Place.......Problem Solved.......:smiley:



    Cheers Glen.
     
  15. soulcompromise

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    Alcohol is a strong addiction.
     
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  16. Grandeur

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    It doesn't change the fact that people are barbaric, though.
     
  17. GLENGLEN

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    If You Like A Drink....(or two)...Then That's Cool......Just Don't Be Getting In Other Peoples Faces......That's All..... :D



    Cheers Glen.
     
  18. lode

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    If Heroine Man isn't a trans superhero at this point, I call dibs.
     
  19. Grandeur

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    I like a lot more than what you call 2 drinks.
     
  20. Grandeur

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    Heroin or heroine. Anyway. I think you get what it is. English ain't my native language.
     

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