CAMPBELL34 VS. LIBERTINE :The War To Settle The Score...

Feelings ARE chemical reactions, seahorse. That is pretty easy science. The brain can be manipulated by various methods.

I am talking about "love" as well. But, it doesn't prove the existence of an objective invisible man.

 

feelings are chemical reactions that are released by emotions of love or nonemotions of fear... god nevertheless

 

Proof?

 

but i never said it did.

 

No, YOU never said that (at least in this conversation), but this was a pick-up of the previous conversation acknowledging that.

Nevertheless, continue...

 

love is the proof of god and a living and vibrant univers... the whole bio-ciruitry that we experience such feelings is the creative design of god as well as a cosmos that manifested in the inward and outward breath of his love from higher dimensions

 

*pssst* Proof??

 

wow...

 

innocence is all there is

when we let go of all of our programs
and conditionings of what we were told
or thought life is
and we let go of all concepts
of love and of hate
and when there is nothing left
but who we are as in
only feeling and awareness,

there we will find our innocence
as the child,
earnestly and wondrously
exploring and discovering life
without fear

let go of the concept of who God is
for then you might find
God is not a thing and the "other"
but God is everything
and a part of you

boldly and yet softly,
look upon life with those childlike eyes,
free of images and mental constructs,
judgments and divisions

feeling with an awareness
as deep as the deepest ocean

 

Well I was first asked to explain why (I) believe in God. (I) was barred from explaining in greater detail why (I) personally believe in God. Now, who's not playing by the rules? And the men you call erronious, the Bible calls inspired men of God. In my experience, an experienced philosopher, is often someone who will dilute the truth, and end up believeing in his own perversion of that truth. I have to tell you HippieLngstcang, your talking to someone who doesen't just think he knows God, or hopes to know God ,or prays he will get close to God. I'm someone who has been in the presence of God. I have heard His voice, I have walked the streets of heaven. The Bible is not just a Book of make believe stories. It is the literal Word of God, and every Word, and every story is ture.
Their were no formal rules mention here, until after I tried to answer why I personally believe in God. The question, ( I ) was first asked. If they wanted formal rules, they never should of asked me, why ( I ) believe in God. They were not worried about me speaking about my personal belief when they ask me why ( I ) believe in God. Only after I began to give a personal responce, did we start talking about rules of engagement. I'm not here to win this debate, I'm here only to speak the truth. I know most will not consider what I say. Yet, if in my whole life, only one more person comes to God, it will all be worth it. I have seen those who were rejoicing in Heven, and I have heard their praises to the Lord. Their singing was so powerful, that their words song went right through my body. Some years ago, I asked God if I could see a little bit of Heaven. I forgot about the prayer, but God remembered. It came to me in a dream, when I woke up, I was so disappointed. I did not want to leave that place. The more I walked in, the greater you could feel God's love, and His power. What a wonder place.
It's sad, because most people well never get to experience it, they will give it all up, for the wisdom of this world. And that's why Jesus states, "how shall they neglect, so great a salvation?''

 

Nice poetry.

 

i spell "wow" backwards... i spell it "wow"

 

*crickets*

Still waiting...

 

thank you

i also appreciate your objective search to define life in terms that you find purposeful

 

campbell DID give you his answer.

you don't [want to] accept it.

 

You asked me a direct question, why do I believe God exist. I tried to give you a direct answer. But you retreated back into your defense mode, of smoke and mirrors, hideing behind your screen of debate rules.
The prophecies which you call a Red Herring, are the back bone of the Bible. It is because of those prophecies, that one billion people today call Jesus Christ God. I did not fail to respond, you failed to listen. You put up the road blocks, not me. The very proof for the Bible you ignore, and then claim I'm changeing the subject. That's pretty good. You ask for proof of Gods existance, but then barr the evidence that would show it. That's kind of like having your cake and eating it to. The very point that would prove the Bible, you reject, and call it a Red Herring. I have asked you to show me prophecies that have 100% accuracy. You have showed me nothing but vague statements. The fact is, the only Book that has such prophecies, is the Bible. You say the Bibles prophecies are false, show me one. And I can tell you right now, the only reason they appear false, is because you have never seen them with Godly wisdom on your side. You have only obsevered them, through humansitic eyes, that lack Godly understanding.

 

"And I can tell you right now, the only reason they appear false, is because you have never seen them with Godly wisdom on your side."- You say.

Campbell, even if these "prophecies" were allowed as evidence, I'd have to get the Catholic version, the Mormon version, the Baptist version, the JW version and on and on in order to be open to it. And it still wouldn't prove Invisible Sky Daddy!

"The only Book which has "prophecies" is the Bible" ??? ha ha...

PEOPLE MAGAZINE has "prophecies" from PROPHETS predicting what is to come for the next year...EVERY YEAR.

AGAIN, CAMPBELL, I am not going to go into this red herring argument. I have already chased your rabbit twice just to get you to come back to the table.

GIVE ME OBJECTIVE PROOF OF YOUR SKY DADDY NOW...or End This Circus!

 

I believe Campbell was referring to religious books. There are no prophecies in taoism, buddhism, hinduism, Islam, or any other world religion besides Christianity.

Which means, that those religions can go on forever without being questioned, but we have prophecies that must be fulfilled OR else or religion can be called untrue. Everyone else can get off scot-free but we have the burden of truth.

 

Written prophecies. Oral prophecies. Religious prophecies all abound regardless of what your Christian apologists write.

The Prophet MUHAMMED
The Prophet JOSEPH SMITH - Book of Mormon
The Prophet NOSTRADAMUS - Quatrains
The I-CHING
The Oracle

All these are various prophecies or prophecy-oriented. Non-Christian (except for maybe Mormons).

Campbell keeps avoiding the OBVIOUS problem of the various sects of your religion's various viewpoints on his prophecy. His "interpretation" doesn't mean anymore than Rev. John Boy Walton's. Because it is nothing but an opinion of what he perceives means this or that.

Just ask Oral Roberts.

BUT, THE QUESTION REMAINS.

Give us some objective evidence of INVISIBLE SKY DADDY, Campbell.

You can spout Sylvia Browne-isms all day long, how about a little evidence of your Omni-Max Daddy?