Butch Broads and Soy Boys: What Happened to Millennials?

Not since technology took most of the labor away from men. I mean, when I look at tradesfolks, that's where I think "a man". Always got that rough look about them, they look hard and stern, especially the older ones. They softly shake their heads when they see the office folks rushing to get their little coffee cups. I feel sorry for them too. Many are not paid well enough to labor the job they do, yet they continue to do it, because it's the only thing they're good at and I can respect that. These days kids pay all this money for college and come out on the other end without a job, no prospects and no idea what they want to do and many do that just to escape the toil of labor. That, I do not respect.

And these days youth and young adults like literally think their beard maintenance is the sign of man lol.

 

I just don't think men are altogether more intelligent than women. Women just have that nurturing side to them, where they'll feed a man's ego. That's what has made men the dominant gender for so long. But I don't think this civilization men have built is so great. I don't even think it's exceptional. It's still rooted in this idea that men are kings. This kind of infantile attitude. And men basically are infantile.

I guess that's the big problem to me. Is that, whatever this idea is of the ideal man, when you get right down to it, most of these so-called real men are infantile bitches with no moral compass. The real contributors to society have been people like Isaac Newton, who died a fucking virgin.

 

Good points for the most part, although the fact Newton died a virgin is I think reason enough to not tout the intelligence of Women either.

 

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As brilliant as Sir Isaac Newton was his secret passion was in the study of Alchemy and Astrology


He was either gay or as a Capricorn he simply couldn’t find a compatible Taurus or a Cancer, or for that matter never discovered the secret to turn lead into gold,
for even back then there were plenty of gold-diggers.

 

So according to my research

Researchers havent been able to pinpoint one specific cause for declining testosterone

If external factors such as hormone mimickers in food and household chemicals are to blame, I think there is cause for alarm

If lifestyle choices are to blame - a sedentary job, obesity, diet, etc .....then I think it would be presumptuous to assume that that the millenial generation is an anomaly, simply based on a 30 year comparison since 1987.
If a sedentary lifestyle contributes to low testosterone levels it is highly likely the upper class throughout history has had lower testosterone levels than the working class, manual laborers - for example. there are probably other examples throughout history where overall testosterone levels have dipped for whatever reason. And I think overall if testosterone levels can be affected to that much of a degree by lifestyle choices, there is some indicatation there that there is something to the concept of gender fluidity, that how masculine or feminine someone presents themselves is dependent on how their hormone levels fluctuate in response to their lifestyle and other environmental factors

Anyways its fairly easy to boost your testosterone levels, if you eat well and maintain a healthy weight and are active, your hormones tend to regulate themselves barring any preexisting medical condition. Which tells me intuitively that lifestyle choices are likely to blame.

 

And I bet Sir Isaac Newton was gay

 

I agree, all of his known friends were male and the fact that he was “deeply introverted and fiercely protective of his privacy “ is code for prancing through the tulips

 

Respectfully, you're drastically misinterpreting the data. That's the single study in Boston I mentioned earlier.

It's data is 14 years old (2002-2005). And the age group it looked at was 57-80. That means the youngest person in the declining testosterone study this thread is based on 71. So born in 1946. Not Millennials, not Gen X, Not even Baby Boomers. The silent generation.



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/well/live/testosterone-supplements-low-t-treatment-libido.html

The testosterone dropping at 1% a year per man, starts happening at age 30. It's affected by both age and lifestyle.

 

If you're serious about this, could you (try to) enlighten me why its so certain to you that there's this motive behind it, which suggests a conscious effort.
Also, how does it make people dependent on the state?

 

Is simply being gay (as in: homosexual) the same thing OP, 6-eyed, Irminsul etc. mean with the lack of masculinity though?
If I read 6-eyeds posts both kind of men fit the bill ('soyboy' metro man and gays with 'feminine' outings becoming commonly accepted).

btw: DaVinci was also a homosexual in a time it was far less accepted, doing brilliant manly things.

edit: It all seems rather superficial and subjective. I mean one doesn't even have to indulge in soy to be portrayed as a soyboy by people like 6-eyed.

 

Nah there's lots of gay men who dont fit the effeminate stereotype.

Anyways I agree it is subjective and superficial, not to mention extremely judgmental. Whether someone meets societal standards of masculinity or femininity doesnt affect anyone, so i dont really understand why people fixate on it so hard

They used to say live and let live (you know they did you know they did you know they did)

I'll take a soyboy over a wife beater any day

 

Perhaps 6-eyed and Irminsul feel that alot of these changes would not even be allowed to flourish if it wasn't for the manly men who literally propped up society and society is not really returning the favor to the men of today who strive to live in that vein.

I'm kind of playing Devil's Advocate here, I realize that's an oversimplified take and not necessarily one I maintain but I'm attempting to bridge the gap in understanding here and I think a video such as this provides some perspective.

 

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How dare you say something logical. This is the internet.

People that build shit are gay!

 

How should society return the favor?

 

Its clear that's the thought pattern 6-eyed is coming from. But how true is it? I mean I'm sure people like unfocusedanakin speaking about 'blue collar' workers the way he did has something to do with it, but couldn't it be the truth lies somewhere in the middle? How are these building and outdoorsy manly men actually getting the short end of the societal or cultural straw these days? Seems a bunch of social media indulgers projecting the words and real life situations of a few on society in general. Just because other kinds of men are becoming more accepted it is portrayed the average manly man is becoming unwanted or kind of obsolete even: but that doesn't seem to be the case in reality to me. It's particular behavior at best that is getting shunned, I guess men that are intrinsicly inclined to resort to that behavior feel threatened in their general being when they take notice of some kind of charging sjw exaggerates their point in a vid (vids similar like the folks like 6-eyed get their views and feelings of validation from)

 

Good question, not automating their jobs could be one way.

 

Well. you (not actually you, general you) cant really claim to be in favor of an unregulated free market and then get upset when corporations want to do what's best for their bottom line.

Automation is a problem we're all going to face but it isnt realistic to expect corporations to make business decisions based on what is "owed" to any subset of the population.

It would be better for society as a whole to figure out how to work with automation, not against it. Because its coming either way