You make me laugh. I am just presenting an alternate viewpoint (it has nothing to do with what I think). Might I add that you characterization of me couldn't be more wrong. The thing you have left out is any evidence for what you say. At least the conspiracy makes up evidence. You should make something up to support your arguement. It will sound better. Documentation, photographs, recordings, references to books, etc. Forge them if you have to. You could also link some other major players in the conspiracy such as the Golden Dawn, the Rosicrucians, mt12dp, Klu Klux Klan, Order of the Eastern Star, Ordo Templi Orientis, the Audubon Society, the Veitcong, The Dave Clark 5, Theosophists, and Sammy David jr., just to name a few. You've also left out alein mind control. Humans are mere puppets. Those on the Christian right view anyone not of their own specific faith to be satanic and probably Illuminati inspired.
There's no point arguing with you. I no longer argue about these subjects. I'll share the information with those who are willing to listen. Arguing with people only adds to seperation and fuels the control matrix. If you'd done any research you'd know that what Rat said is correct. The facts speak for themselves. Anyway, if I say much more it'll become arguing, which I just said I won't do.
I am not disputing that Bush is involved in secret societies because it is a fact that he is. What I am saying is that I have not seen any evidence that they are linked to the real and true Illuminati. There might be some group(s) of wannabees calling themselves the the Illuminati but its not the real deal. I am not trying to argue, what is needed is information. What books, websites, etc would have this proof that you speak of?
It's everywhere. Read anything by David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, etc. I'm especially partial to Icke's work. if you're interested in secret societies, might I suggest The Biggest Secret. You can order it from Amazon.
From what my father said its a really interesting book and sheds light on things most people wouldn't even imagine.