Burn your own flag?

Well brother if you actually knew me you'd know that I am on probation for about a year and a half-two more years and that I do plan on finding another country to emigrate to, and become a citizen of when I am done. I guess the only other places to go in the world must be enemies or ex-enemies of the rich west, O MAN now I am so scared that I am going to force myself to stay here and be a good little american.

wtf? WTF?!? Lemme guess, you're a soldier, or someone in your family was, well hey, do you know what free speech is? See, prime example of why I fucking hate most Americans. You've got a burn on your forehead from your stomach acid because your head is so far up your ass. You're defending the symbol of blood-spilling bastard hypocrites, so go ahead, give your life for a piece of cloth, or oil, why not die for a fucking ham sandwich then?

 

I know free speach and I was practicing it. As were you. I don't bash you for your thoughts. I just stated i'd try and stop it. Good luck on the emigration.

 

Ya don't have to bash me for my thoughts, just by incinuating that you wouldn't *let* me practice my rights is incinuating that you don't mind a little fascism.

 

what ever dude...good luck..

 

Thanks.

 

i called you sweetheart the same way i could have called you 'dickhead'...but i didn't call you that did I? No...cuz you did that all on your when you said:

I am making a toolbox forum especially for you.

dearest, i'm just mess'n of course

 

Totally agree with you on that....

 

At the heart of the matter (for me) it's not so much the symbolism of the flag but wtf is this incessant need to plant the damn things all over the place. What is the purpose of waving your countries flag in your country to other people who are citizens of that country? I'm perfectly aware of my geographical location, the name it has been given, and where it's boundaries lie. Must I be reminded every 20 ft or so of where I'm at. This seems a bit handicapped. Are these people really that dumb? Do they wake up and go am I in Jamaica or America, oh look the American flag, ok it's safe honey we're still here. In some ways that might be a rhetorical question.

Would I burn the flag? Well on some was successful but they make lousy fires. The flame retardant and flame 'proof' ones are kind of hard to manage as you need lots of ignitable substances. Common charcoal fluid is lousy and gasoline is expensive so with those it can be an investment in both time and money. There was a thread around the sci forums about a solar death ray. In theory it might work to ininerate it quite rapidly but maybe not. If anything it would be interesting to try as a service to the flag maker. If successful ship a letter off to China and inform them that their 'flame proof' flag is in fact not and they need to do more research. If it doesn't burn send one as well congratulating them. Then promptly plant it back in the front yard so everyone knows what country you live in.

 

wtf? no offense, but this is just the weirdeset thing i've ever read.

What private citizen raises a flag to say "hey look, we're in america!" It is about showing pride in who you are. Some people are proud to be an American, and what America stands for and they want to show it.

haha, ok, now that was funny.

 

So, I'm an American, you're an American and you wave a flag to do what again? I guess the point is that it just seems idiotic to wave it to the other citizens of the same country (the word remedial comes to mind now). Carry it to the olympics, etc.. now that makes more sense.

Same goes really for any country though, because Americans aren't the only ones that do that.

 

under no circumstances would I ever deface or burn my nations flag

I do not associate my flag with my government, my flag is a common banner for all those who call my country home and all those who have made this country possible

I am imensely proud of the maple leaf

 

as are most Canadians wearing their Roots wares. You sons and daughters of bitches hvae to go so far as to wear your precious leaf. What if I bought a Roots jumper (hoodie) with a big ole leaf on the back...and burned it. Would that be as offensive?

 

hahaha, how do you spot a canadian?

By the maple leaf hat, shirt, shorts, badge sewn on the backpack and the fact he says aboot.

BTW, the maple leaf belongs to VERMONT! we had it first! Your maple syrup is sub par

 

i answered this already, but here you go again.

"It is about showing pride in who you are. Some people are proud to be an American, and what America stands for and they want to show it."

 

Thank you....

Never had anyone do a forum especially for me...

Everyone has their own opion...that's what makes the
world such a lovely place....It's just great to be able to say it...
Good or bad.

 

In no way do I love people who share their country of birth with me more than anyone else. In no way do I take pride in what other people than me have done, just because they are from the same country as me (after all, that says nothing about my own accomplishments). Likewise, in no way am I proud of being born in a certain country; I didn't have to do anything for it, and I can't be proud of something I didn't work for to accomplish.

In no way do the colours of my country's flag represent me, or symbolise the way I am, the way I feel, or what I think of the world. I use flags and symbols of my own, ones that do represent me and my views. So the flag of my country does nothing to me and when I feel like it I could burn it without remorse.

 

no, that would just be stupid, those things are fuckin expensive

 

I don't know where the 'aboot' thing come from, I think that's just something you guys made up about us, never in my life have I heard someone pernounce it that way.

When I travel I sport a little maple leaf on my side bag, funny thing is I put it on there when I was in Quebec to show my Canadian pride whilst living amongst the seperatists, haha...to be fair I did sew a fleur de lis next to it

And it's funny, we say the same thing about your maple syrup I really don't know about the maple leaf claim though, how can you back that up? It's only been our flag since 64 but it's apeared on nearly every sort of coat of arms, and been used as folkloric symbol for centuries now. Either way, it's alright by me if the Vermontians wanna use it too, they're nearly Canadian anyways, hehe.

 

JUst a thought here after watching the news....

What do you think about Muslims burning the Danish and French flags after the printing of the cartoons depicting Mohammed in a Danish newspaper? Is this justifiable?

 

I'ma gonna go ahead and assume that was directed at my comments.

In no way do I love the people who share my country of birth more than anyone else either. It's not about me thinking my countrymen are better than any other, it's simply me apreciating them for who they are and what they mean to me. It's been my experience that this is generally the sentiment in most countries, they are pround of thier country because that is what they were born into, that is thier culture, a part of thier identity.

I am an individual, but to think that as an individual I hold no atachments, that my existance is not a part of some larger scheme, well I'd say that's absurd and self centered. First and foremost is my family, I'm just one progression of my ancestors, all of which came here over the past 300 years (my french-Canadian roots go back to about 1730) seeking out a better life for themselves and thier families. Most came here with little holdings, but shared a common interest with other families of thier time to carve out a living, quite often a task which required a communal and even national effort. So I not only share a common link with my ancestors, but the people of thier time, thier trials and tribulations, all the way down the line till my arrival here, inheriting the society and history they created for me. I am inseperable from these truths and I am bound by them to make good on what was given to me, and to ensure I continue this story, thier accomplishments are my accomplishments, and my accomplishments will be my childrens accomplishments.

So again, my flag is a banner for these people, and thier story, my pride is not false, it derives from an understanding and respect for my history which is the context of my life.