Burn your own flag?

I'd burn it because the US fucked over my people... stole all of our land. Millions of Native Americans killed for that flag. So fuck the US flag.

 

I won't say any more on the subject other than to say that Australia is probably more dominantly white than the UK.

I can't give exact figures but I bet the split between all minority groups (added together) and white brits isn't that different and getting closer all the time.

 

hell yea, now what do the 'patriots' have to say to that?

 

when exactly did the US government kill millions of native americans?

Surely not with guns....are you going to blame us for sickness? Heck, they dont even know how many total native americans there were.

what, we killed the iroquois? They shouldn't have sided with the british in the american rev.

Also, i hope you wont defend many native americans...people like the iroquois commited what we consider genocide against the huron people. Yeah, they took over much of the eastern US/Canada peacefully...riiiiiight.

 

Uhhh you heard of the indian removal act or the indian wars? The fact is we came here took what wasn't ours, and poisoned their culture with our materialistic values.

 

The Indian Removal act didnt kill millions of Indians. Heck, the most famous example, the trial of tears killed between 482-4000.

The Indian Wars? Between 1776 and 1890 around 40,000 died. The Early ones were fought between they sided with the british. Bad mistake on their part. This was the bloodest war of the indian wars.

Our 'poisoning' their culture didnt kill millions eithers.

Please, lets talk facts and not made up shit. Dont get me wrong, the Indians were treated like shit by the US gov(trail of tears for example), but to claim that the US gov wiped out millions of indians is blatantly false. Most indians died of sickness and not of war or execution.

 

Sicknesses from Europeans. If they hadn't come here and brought disease, so many Native Americans wouldn't have died.

 

Was that meant as a joke?! So we're not supposed to explore, because we might accidently kill someone?

It is a real shame that they died, but ultimately, disease is our not fault

 

Did I put a "LOL" in there? I didn't think so.

So because we had to put our nose where it didn't belong (typical American thing, I suppose), we destroyed other people's lives? Yup, not much has changed.

 

The usual lazy if. And you don't think the massacres of Chinese (by Japanese) and Jews (by Germans) warranted war?

 

Wow, you really need to drop the anti american sentiment. It makes you an ugly person.

Do i need to remind you that most indians were killed off(by disease) long before there was a concept of an American nation?

And how you can blame us for disease is beyond me.

And No, we cannot except a world where don't explore. What an ugly, unimaginative and horrible world we've live in without a desire to know more.

 

Are you serious? The trail of tears happened BECAUSE of the indian removal act, get your head out of your ass and accept the fact that the white man destroyed the culture.
Desire to know more? I think you mean 'own' more.

 

You need to open your mind to people who don't like what America is doing. Close minded people are ugly to me.

 

you need to reread what i said.

I said the MOST FAMOUS EXAMPLE of the indian removal act WAS THE TRAIL OF TEARS.

understood?

I think the death of so many indians destroyed the culture far more than anything whites did.

 

well...not to drop this down to a "i know you are, but what am i?" level...

why do you think i called you ugly? It is not because i think you're an open minded person.

You're the one with unabashed, irrational hate. Blaming Americans because of sickness? This is ridiculous on so many different levels its not even funny.

 

That is bullshit.
1) Indigenous People
2) Large amounts of immigration since World War II
3) We are techincally a part of Asia.
4) We are a Country renowned for our multiculturalism

Sorry, I tried to find figures but it doesn't seem there are any, or they are hard to find.

We have positive discrimination over here, as well as overblown political correctness. I couldn't give a flying fuck. I was luckily born into a white middle class family while Australian Aboriginals suffer on average from living conditions that are ranked 3rd worse in the entire world. Lets not forget the large populations of middle eastern descent - Who are currently suffering from a wave of ignorance and misunderstanding from the White population that is slowly improving with time, thanks to white people TAKING RESPONSIBILITY to stamp out racism from their own ranks.

 

Have you read my other posts in this thread? It's not just sicknesses that Europeans brought here when they colonized it and explored it. It's the greed, the government stealing from poor nations and taking advantage of them, it's America putting their noses where it doesn't belong. You aren't going to change my mind about America being a certain way. Steal from the poor give to the rich...look at tax breaks. Who gets tax breaks? Oh yeah, rich folks. America is beginning to be run by elitists. Damn right I'd burn the flag, if it's the way I can get people's attention. People should know about what's going on and they SHOULD be angry.

I have a button that reads: "If you aren't outraged, you're not paying attention". I pay attention and I'm outraged...and I have every right to be.

 

That is the grossest, ugliest and most rampant display of overblown patriotism and ignorance I have seen for many years.

You're well known in these forums for your cynicism and hatred for fellow Americans. Most of your statements entail some sort of "You're all idiots" sentiment.

You attack these people of being un-american yet they have the optimism and sense of responsibility to understand that their nation is capable of far greater ideals than those of its barbaric past.

Megara, lets cut to the chase, do you believe your ancestors were doing the American Indians a favour by taking over their land and establishing a nation?

 

Hey maybe I'd understand if you didn't leave out those key prepositional phrases like 'OF THE INDIAN REMOVAL ACT.' So no, that's not what you said. You are a dipshit, what is American culture anyways, greed, mcdonald's, wal-mart, g-unit, and fathead texan oil barrens?

I AM BLAMING THE GREED, MATERIALISM, AND LACK OF SOUL ON THE WHITE MAN, AND THE WHITE MAN FOR TRYING TO INSTILL THESE BELIEFS IN NATIVES. TRY TO FUCKIN ARGUE IT, YOU CAN'T, ASK AN ANTHROPOLOGIST WHAT THEY THINK.

 

Hatred and ignorance always boil to the top.

u r smart.