Bug Chasers and Gift Givers (MERGED)

I've heard and read that many chasers do so because they have this idea that they'll end up with AIDS anyway, so why not just get it over with and cut to the chase. (no pun). there is also the rush of doing something very dangerous, like playing with a loaded gun.

I don't understand it either, gettting AIDS is not a good thing and as said before, not a pleasant way to die.

 

bare backing is getting more and more popular, although most bare backers would say they do not wish to get HIV how they feel they can avoid it is beyond me
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I don't understand it either. I contracted HIV 5 years ago and I ran across someone that wanted (after much discussion) me to give it to him. It made an impression on me and as far as I know, I have never passed the buck

 

Thats one thing we haven't thought about so far, it must be incredably difficult for people who are living with HIV, to hear that people actually want it.
also I haven't heard of any bug chasers that are women and men that try and get it from women, but I have no doubt there must be, I wonder wther its more common in gay circles
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That's disgusting.

 

well as i have already said, its my belief that people like this have little or no regard for themselves and trying to understand why they would want to do it, would be much better than making a judgement thats just going to drive them more into themselves
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I think very few people are going to come right out and say, "I have incredibly low self-esteem, don't really like myself, and, therefore, place little value on my own life." That may be why no one ever answers the question.

 

That's such a crazy thing to do. Chase HIV+ people for sex.

 

thats really really fucking disturbing... but i guess i can see if one has nothing to live for how they could fall into a hole like that. if a human being is capable of suicide i can see them being capable of wanting to be involved in something like that. but they probolly have nothing or very little to live for, have no family/have been abandoned by family or are just traumatized. i dont see it as being justifiable at all, but i can somewhat see their point of view.

 

most probably wouldn't even consider that theres anything wrong with what they are doing unless they go to therapy (not very likely) or end up with it, in which case the harsh reality would hit them quickly.
this subject is very bleak
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I suppose you could be right, but it's kind of like saying most people who play Russian Roulette probably don't recognize the gun might really go off when it's their turn. It is very bleak to think that some people are in that degree of denial.

 

it may be bleak, its also realistic
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Yes, realistic for some, but I do not believe for most.

 

its basic human mental health, people self harm and become self destructive that are in a lot of emotional pain and self disgust, you may not like it, but that doesn't make it not so
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In the time it took you to draft your response, someone else likely became HIV positive. That's what I don't like.

 

you've lost me how that links.

I don't know where your stance is on this subject, however the only realistic way that a person who is a 'bug chaser' will stop is for them to have someone that will listen to them without judging them, they need to find out the root case of what is making them want this illness, the likely hood is low self worth (which could be because they have been abused as children)
giving them a hard time, writing them off as nut cases, pretending it is anything else doesn't help.

AND there is a big difference between someone who catches it through being careless (I.E in the heat of the moment diescides a condom doesn't matter) and someone who wants to get the illness
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I watched a guy on a TV special about this, try to tell why he did it. Part of what I remember him saying was there was a sense of giving himself completely over to the other person. His sexual pleasure being derived from the absolute surrender without regard for personal safety (or more like; my personal safety is not as important as giving you the height of sexual pleasure; you know, unprotected). And just excitement from the danger as well.


And I agree, for this mind set, I would think a person would have almost no self esteem.

 

theres also people who want the illness regardless of who they get it from
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I'm not as worried about the bug chasers as I am the gift givers. What's going on in their minds where they would actually wish this upon someone else?

 

one guy on tv said he hated the idea but he also really needed the money that was being offered him
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