Brit's get sharia law

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  1. OddApple

    OddApple Member

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    Islamic law is adopted by British legal
    chiefs

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...c-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html

    Solicitors told how to draw up Sharia-style wills penalising widows
    and non-believers

    Islamic law is to be effectively enshrined in the British legal system
    for the first time under guidelines for solicitors on drawing up “Sharia
    compliant” wills.

    Under ground-breaking guidance, produced by The Law Society,
    High Street solicitors will be able to write Islamic wills that deny
    women an equal share of inheritances and exclude unbelievers
    altogether.

    The documents, which would be recognised by Britain’s courts, will
    also prevent children born out of wedlock – and even those who
    have been adopted – from being counted as legitimate heirs.

    Anyone married in a church, or in a civil ceremony, could be
    excluded from succession under Sharia principles, which recognise
    only Muslim weddings for inheritance purposes.

    Nicholas Fluck, president of The Law Society, said the guidance
    would promote “good practice” in applying Islamic principles in the
    British legal system.

    Some lawyers, however, described the guidance as “astonishing”,
    while campaigners warned it represented a major step on the road to
    a “parallel legal system” for Britain’s Muslim communities.

    Baroness Cox, a cross-bench peer leading a Parliamentary
    campaign to protect women from religiously sanctioned
    discrimination, including from unofficial Sharia courts in Britain, said
    it was a “deeply disturbing” development and pledged to raise it with
    ministers.


    “This violates everything that we stand for,” she said. “It would make
    the Suffragettes turn in their graves.”


    The guidance, quietly published this month and distributed to
    solicitors in England and Wales, details how wills should be drafted
    to fit Islamic traditions while being valid under British law.

    It suggests deleting or amending standard legal terms and even
    words such as “children” to ensure that those deemed “illegitimate”
    are denied any claim over the inheritance.

    It recommends that some wills include a declaration of faith in Allah
    which would be drafted at a local mosque, and hands responsibility
    for drawing up some papers to Sharia courts.

    The guidance goes on to suggest that Sharia principles could
    potentially overrule British practices in some disputes, giving
    examples of areas that would need to be tested in English courts.

    Currently, Sharia principles are not formally addressed by or
    included in Britain’s laws.

    However, a network of Sharia courts has grown up in Islamic
    communities to deal with disputes between Muslim families.

    A few are officially recognised tribunals, operating under the
    Arbitration Act.

    They have powers to set contracts between parties, mainly in
    commercial disputes, but also to deal with issues such as domestic
    violence, family disputes and inheritance battles.

    But many more unofficial Sharia courts are also in operation.

    Parliament has been told of a significant network of more informal
    Sharia tribunals and “councils”, often based in mosques, dealing
    with religious divorces and even child custody matters in line with
    religious teaching.

    They offer “mediation” rather than adjudication, although some
    hearings are laid out like courts with religious scholars or legal
    experts sitting in a manner more akin to judges than counsellors.

    One study estimated that there were now around 85 Sharia bodies
    operating in Britain. But the new Law Society guidance represents
    the first time that an official legal body has recognised the legitimacy
    of some Sharia principles.

    It opens the way for non-Muslim lawyers in High Street firms to offer
    Sharia will drafting services. The document sets out crucial
    differences between Sharia inheritance laws and Western traditions.

    It explains how, in Islamic custom, inheritances are divided among a
    set list of heirs determined by ties of kinship rather than named
    individuals. It acknowledges the possibility of people having multiple
    marriages.

    “The male heirs in most cases receive double the amount inherited
    by a female heir of the same class,” the guidance says. “Non-Muslims may not inherit at all, and only Muslim marriages are
    recognised.

    Similarly, a divorced spouse is no longer a Sharia heir, as the
    entitlement depends on a valid Muslim marriage existing at the date
    of death. This means you should amend or delete some standard will
    clauses.”

    It advises lawyers to draft special exclusions from the Wills Act
    1837, which allows gifts to pass to the children of an heir who has
    died, because this is not recognised in Islamic law.

    Keith Porteous Wood, executive director of the National Secular
    Society, said: “This guidance marks a further stage in the British
    legal establishment’s undermining of democratically determined
    human rights-compliant law in favour of religious law from another
    era and another culture. British equality law is more comprehensive
    in scope and remedies than any elsewhere in the world. Instead of
    protecting it, The Law Society seems determined to sacrifice the
    progress made in the last 500 years.”


    Lady Cox said: “Everyone has freedom to make their own will and
    everyone has freedom to let those wills reflect their religious beliefs.
    But to have an organisation such as The Law Society seeming to
    promote or encourage a policy which is inherently gender
    discriminatory in a way which will have very serious implications for
    women and possibly for children is a matter of deep concern.”
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    At least there is an effort to bring it before the ministers. I think we have to wait and see where it goes...wonder what would happen if the Church of England said "Oh, we'll settle it all in our Church now like the muzz's and the courts can conform to us." - I bet not the same thing....
     
  2. fraggle_rock

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    I have to admit, Muslim law stands for pretty much everything that I am against and this would disturb me a lot.

    I'm all for multiculturalism but the idea of a closed, exclusive, and in some ways hostile society living within the borders of a liberal democracy isn't something I could ever support.
     
  3. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    This is concerning but given that strawman arguments have been floated before I'll withhold my decernment about this.
     

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