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  1. wyldwynd

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  2. WOLF ANGEL

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    "Freedom is a word I rarely use,Without thinking, oh yeah," = Donovan Leitch
     
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    The lyrics may be different than what I actually sing lol
     
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    Wel that’s true freedom is becoming of age everyday

    I have to google the name Donovan I have lived in the woods and just for the last couple of years have really begun to look around also I did have a moment in the years 84-87
     
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    Ohh I actually know Donovan never heard his last name ...okay
     
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    I really like Donovan music
     
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    "Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose - Nothin', it ain't nothin' honey, if it ain't free" - F. Foster / K. Kristofferson
     
  8. wyldwynd

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    He kris was married to Rita Coolidge
     
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    Well that is the truth of love is only gain equals freedom

    hate is always lacking and such a loss
     
  10. Vladimir Illich

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    The boss of P & O Ferries openly admits he broke the law when he was questioned in Parliament yesterday.

    P&O admits breaking law over sackings

    Neil Lancefield
    24 March 2022, 1:54 pm

    P&O Ferries has admitted breaking employment law when it sacked 800 workers without notice.

    Chief executive Peter Hebblethwaite told MPs there is “absolutely no doubt” the ferry operator was required to consult with trade unions.

    The company replaced its crews with cheaper agency workers last week.

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    Peter Hebblethwaite answering questions in front of MPs (House of Commons/PA)
    Mr Hebblethwaite said the new crews are being paid below the UK’s minimum wage apart from on domestic routes, but insisted this is allowed under international maritime rules.

    He also claimed Transport Secretary Grant Shapps knew about the intention to cut jobs in November last year, although that was strongly denied by the Department for Transport (DfT).

    Explaining the decision not to consult with trade unions, Mr Hebblethwaite told a joint session of the Commons’ transport and business select committees: “We assessed that given the fundamental nature of change, no union could accept it and therefore we chose not to consult because a consultation process would have been a sham.

    “We didn’t want to put anybody through that.

    “We are compensating people in full and up-front for that decision.”

    Questioned on whether he was concerned he had breached his legal obligations as a company director, Mr Hebblethwaite said: “I completely throw our hands up, my hands up, that we did choose not to consult.

    “We did not believe there was any other way to do this.”

    Asked if he would make the same decision again with the benefit of hindsight, Mr Hebblethwaite replied: “We weren’t viable before, and I know that if we hadn’t made radical changes the business would have closed.”

    The chief executive also told MPs that Mr Shapps was informed on November 22 last year by P&O Ferries’ owner DP World that the company would be changing its business model.

    The PA news agency understands that Mr Shapps did meet DP World chief executive Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem in Dubai on that date, but the DfT insisted the Cabinet minister was only told the ferry operator faced challenges from competitors.

    A DfT spokeswoman said: “DP World did not mention to the Transport Secretary any changes it would be making to P&O Ferries and there was no indication of the completely unacceptable changes it has subsequently made.”

    The minimum wage in the UK for people aged 23 and above is £8.91 per hour.


    Mr Hebblethwaite, whose basic annual salary is £325,000, revealed that the average hourly pay of the new crew is only £5.50.

    “We are paying above ITF (International Transport Workers’ Federation) minimum wages,” he said.

    Business committee member Andy McDonald pointed out that is “below the national minimum wage of this country” and asked “how do you reconcile that?”.

    Mr Hebblethwaite replied: “This is an international seafaring model that is consistent with models throughout the globe and our competitors.”

    The ferry company boss was silent when Mr McDonald asked “could you sustain your lifestyle?” if his pay was that low.
    Mick Lynch, general secretary of the Rail, Maritime and Transport union (RMT), told MPs that P&O Ferries was guilty of “flagrant breaches of the law”.

    He said: “They’ve done it deliberately and they’ve factored in what they’re going to have to pay for it.”

    He said the company is “threatening and blackmailing” its former employees, telling them they must sign a document or “you’ll potentially get no award whatsoever, and you have to give up all of your legal rights”.

    He added: “This is absolutely outrageous.”

    Mr Lynch described UK employment law as “a shambles”.

    Andrew Burns QC, barrister at Devereaux Chambers, told MPs “all employers with ships must give a notice to the appropriate authority 45 days before dismissal”.

    He continued: “My understanding from what I’ve been told this morning is that the notice was given to the appropriate authorities in the countries where the ships are flagged only on the day of the dismissals and not in advance.”

    That “appears to be a breach” of employment law, and “it may be that (P&O Ferries) are liable to a prosecution”, he said.



    I wonder how long (if ever) it will take for this scumbag 'nasty sleaze party' government to get round to issuing proceedings against P&O and its directors ???
     
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    organized crime at its finest..

    While good ole honest Uncle Sam is shaking his finger claiming I want you to join the forces of stoking the chimney so we can see the next elected cardinal get their wings clipped in a public display of transgressions of many types
     
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    If the boss finds out you took the lead it’s a beat down
     
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    Run for your lives I took his hat and now he is kissed

    ahhh I should wake up before I post lmao
     
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    I meant to write/translate pissed
     
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    It’s a huge humanitarian issue for sure

    every single individual person deserves to be treated In a humane way
     
  18. Boozercruiser

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    That just about sums it all up Gal.:hearteyes:XX
    I hope P and O have to take every single employee back, and now one of their ships has been impounded because of a lack of safety on the ship, that could well happen!
     
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