Brexit

Discussion in 'Politics' started by BlackBillBlake, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    VG

    What the fuck are you on about now?
     
  2. lode

    lode Banned

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    In Dallas we call dumping a girl before she finds out she's too good for you Brexiting.
     
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  3. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Bloody hell, coronovirus cases in Italy exploded, 820 cases, 21 deaths

    In, what was that, two weeks

    Tell me that's not mismanagement when countries right next door still only have a dozen cases
     
  4. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    You’re now blaming the coronavirus on the EU and as a reason for Brexit?

    Are you nuts or what?
     
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  5. You sound like a dick by adding something to do with a chinese deadly flu bug and brexit which is totally different.
     
  6. Surely VG is taking the p155 here
     
  7. Vladimir Illich

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    No Suzanne darlin' - he's a knuckle dragger !!!
     
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  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Does have to do with Brexit, as the way the different EU countries handle this gives away how effective their governments are at not just handling this, but everything else.

    Also highlights how legless the EU Parliament is in influencing the politics of member countries.

    It's already obvious Italy was slow to get a handle on the spread of infections
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    im just here to get this thread to 100 pages
     
  10. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    What are the benefits of Brexit?

    Well rumours continue that this Brexit government still doesn’t have a clue what to do and has begun to realise the actual realities of Brexit rather than the fantasy they peddled either through ideology or to gain power.

    Something that was brought up by many remainers that was dismissed by leavers as ‘project fear’ was the likely adverse impact that Brexit would have on sectors of the UK economy.

    Manufacturing - Food (fishing and Agriculture) -Services.

    Well today let look at

    Fishing and Agriculture

    Leavers said fishing and farming would flourish in a Brexit Britain, remainers pointed out that given the data it was more probable that they would be devastated (through cuts in subsidies, regulations and the loss of markets).

    We also pointed out this was a neoliberal project being pushed by neoliberals for neoliberal ends. That they were unlikely to keep up the subsidies that many farmers depended on to exist or give the assistance needed in hard times.

    Yes fishing isn’t a large sector but was talked a lot about by leavers during the campaign with its rather jingoistic shouting of ‘taking back control of OUR waters’. The more realist remainers however kept explaining that fishing could very easily find itself in real difficulties in anything but the mildest Brexit (it exports most of it catch to the EU) and that in anything harder that it would probably need government assistance and investment.

    Neoliberals hate government subsidies, assistance and investment

    So it not surprising that leaked Treasury report from a economics adviser has acknowledged that such things as fishing and farming are of no critical importance to the country’s economy and basically the government should take the opportunity of Brexit to let them go.

    I don’t think this is going to happen immediately as this would devastate those coastal and rural areas that were bamboozled into voting for Brexit, but imagine it will be the Tory direction of travel.

    This could lead to more wilding of the countryside but another route and probably the one more favoured by neoliberals would be for the small family farms that go bust to be bought up by giant agribusinesses to bring in highly automated but low regulation industrial farming.
     
  11. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    LOL

    One minute the Brexit crowd are telling us how all controlling and all powerful is the EU and that is why we had to leave

    The next they are going on about how powerless and ineffectual the EU is that that is why it was a good thing we left.

    As said they haven’t a clue what they are going on about, it’s all just words with no reason or rational thought behind them.
     
  12. No it doesn't.
    Brexit is for exiting the european union.
    The coronavirus was not around when this started.
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Number of cases as of today:

    Italy 2036
    Germany 165
    France 191
    Spain 120


    UK 40
     
  14. It's got nothing to do with the coronavirus that is going around.
    It has a lot to do with people travelling to china and back again.

    In Australia alone there are about 10 cases with one person dying from it.
    Remember Australia is NOT part of the EU.

    So you are wrong.
     
  15. Vanilla Gorilla

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    The disparity between how the different EU countries manage this and everything else....and the effectiveness of the cost of the additional EU Parliament does have everything to do why Britain is better off Brexiting however
     
  16. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    What are you going on about again?

    Do you even engage your reasoning faculties before speaking?

    As said leaver made this big deal about how the EU was TOO controlling now you are seemingly getting at the EU for not been controlling enough.

    Thing is that counter to all the Brexit bullshit about EU control, the member nations of the EU were (for good or ill) always under their own control as seen in this crisis.

    As to the cost of the EU we have been through that many times and we got a lot more out of membership than we put in and you don’t dispute that in any rational way.

    So what the fuck are you on about?
     
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  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So we are agreed then on how useless the EU is then.

    When there is a big health crisis, everybody is on their own, refugees from Turkey, that's Greece's problem
     
  18. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    LOL as I say do you engage your brain before you reply to these posts?

    I’m just making fun of leavers who keep changing their arguments to suit the occasion (even when none of their arguments make any sense).

    I mean come on man, you can always tell when someone has a great idea when their arguments in support of it keep changing and are completely inconsistent and even contradictory.

    Sorry mate but do you not actually realise how foolish this makes you seem?
     
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  19. Gul Dukat

    Gul Dukat Kanar, anyone?

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    Didn’t Angela Merkle let a fuck ton of immigrants into Germany not that long ago?
     
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