Brave New World

Discussion in 'Sci-Fi Books' started by Defence_mechanism, May 19, 2004.

  1. Anyone else absolutely love this book? the setting is nothing like Pala, in Huxley's Island. quite the opposite. very controlled, capitalistic and nothing like any place i'd like to live in. BUT it had me hooked from the very start. huxley lets his ideas flow very subtly and the intricacies of the world is amazing. it really makes you question the world around you and where we're headed.

    the conversation between The World Controller and the Savage at the end really got the brain juices flowing.

    two thumbs up

    ***** 5 stars.
     
  2. Acorn

    Acorn Member

    i liked it too. i want to find more books like that.
     
  3. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Brave New World is certainly an interesting read, if a little bit dated, as Huxley himself adamitted in 'Brave New World Revisited' (1956). He had the idea that Orwell's '1984' would prove a more reliable prophecy of the future.
     
  4. Excellent book.
    I loved it.
    But I still haven't read 1984... damn, gotta buy a copy!
     
  5. Great book, I'd have to say Huxley's vision of the future more accurately represents whats really going on. In Orwells book, you have outright control, the mechanisms are there, its just that everyone is so conditioned by fear, that they are unable to hold that the notion 2 + 2 doesn't =5. Whereas in BNW, the people are fed feel good drugs all the time and kept entertained, whilst the societal classes are kept apart by eugenics. That is capitalist society in a nutshell, I'm not saying it couldn't turn more totalitarian, like 84' but people are less likely to revolt if they don't realize they are controlled, like what we have here in this country.
     
  6. sky_pink

    sky_pink er... what's the time?

    Didn't you notice that the whole point of 1984 was that people didn't notice they were controlled? That they didn't notice all the lies, believing, for example, they'd always been at war with the country that has in truth been their ally just a short time before?

    It's not fear that kept them from realizing it... not caring, perhaps?
     
  7. DiffKettleOfFish

    DiffKettleOfFish Kickin' it

    I love that book. Something I realized a while ago... you know the thing about there being an Abortion Centre in the world? Well, that was intended to be a lot more shocking at the time Huxley wrote it... but now we actually do have abortion centers. Kinda eerie... I dunno.
     
  8. migle

    migle Senior Member

    Really excellent book. I think it's a further future than 1984, but it speaks about another topics.
    1984 talked about future in state like the USSR, that began being a people dictatory and finnished being a dictator dictatory. It's part of the trilogy "Revolution betrayed" with Animal Farn and Homage to Catalonia.
    And, on the other hand Brave New World talks about the future in a capitalist state, where people have different minds and ways, life styles, etc.
     
  9. sky_pink

    sky_pink er... what's the time?

    But Orwell really meant for it to be as if in England, isn't it weird, now that we've lived past it?
     
  10. DharmaBum

    DharmaBum Old Guard

    Let's Talk about Brave New World as the Title of the Topic Suggests!


    This Book was Amazing when i Read it ,Some of the Things Huxley Envisioned have eerily Come to pass..one of the best Book's I've ever Read ,and it also inspired one of my favourite Album's.."Brave new World" by Iron Maiden..Bring this Savage back home!...
     
  11. migle

    migle Senior Member

    It's not so weird, because he was English, wasn't it? (Well he was born in India, I think, but he was English), and at his moment he was involved in left parties movements, but he disagreed the USSR behaveour, because it was stalin's times, and it was not then a socialist state, it was just an imperium ruled by a dictator, so he couldn't talk openly about USSR in his books.
    When he was in Spain during the Civil War (from that experience he wrote "Homage to Catalonia) he was a member of the POUM (Marxist Unification Workers Party) a party that went into the pure Marxist theory, and the PC (Communist Party) in Spain that was still inside the government at the moment, destroyed POUM and killed some of the formers, included their leader or president Andreu Nin. That was the moment when Orwell left Spain and the war, and came back to England. So I think it's understandable that he didn't speak about USSR widely in his books although it was always an allegory.
     
  12. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    Brave New World is an exellent book - I've read it only once so far because I got it only a few months ago, but I loved it! I think I'm gonna read it over very soon... and I'd also like to get more Huxley books.

    I heard that 1984 was in the same spirit but I still haven't read it! My sister just has though, and she loved it - which makes me guess that I will too, since we have pretty much the same tastes in books and everything in general...

    Anyways, yeah it was really interesting, I finished it very fast I remember, I had a very hard time interumpting my reading. I love science-fiction and especially when it gives a message -
     
  13. bellystar

    bellystar Member

    I'm actually rereading BNW right now, and loving it more this time. I read it, along with Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm, in high school. I'll have to get those books next!!
     
  14. i love what the The World Controller said at the end about religion and God:

    "One believes things because one has been conditioned to believe them ... People believe in God because they've been conditioned to believe in God."

    "...if ever, by some unlucky chance, anything unpleasant sould somehow happen, why there's always soma to give you a holiday from the facts. And there's always soma to calm your anger, to reconcile you to your enemies, to make you patient and long-suffering ... anyobody can be virtuous now. You can carry at least half your morality about in a bottle. Christianity without tears - that's what soma is."
     
  15. Guru420

    Guru420 Member

    Written by Aldous Huxley (Doors of Perception and Island)this novel shows us life in the future of a totalitarian (overcontroling) government. You decide whether this world is a Utopia or the death of the American dream. Either way, this new world is definatley possible.
     
  16. Awsome book! Read it in high school for a book report I got to choose book. They made a TV movie too out of this.

    I recommend everyone read this book. It was originally written in something like 1929 and the concepts and theory of the world in the novel is still very much a possibility for our future.

    I give this book a 10. Highly mind expanding!
     
  17. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

    I read it in High school, only because of the author and his conection to the "DOORS" band name...but I was utterly impressed. Led me into reading some other works by the "names" of the counterculter(decade and a half before I was born) Keasey was the one I really dug. "sometimes a great Notion" , excellent.....oh yeah, this was a huxley thread...sorrry.
     
  18. Darkman

    Darkman Member

    Brave new world has to be one of my fave books of all time :) and the ending is so sad! The way he feels so stiffled by the 'pure' life and all..
     
  19. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    Wasn't there a thread on that posted here already? Please check before posting anything new... thanks :)
     
  20. lyla

    lyla Member

    BTW - warning!!! this thread may contain spoilers! Read at your own risk :p

    Recently finished BRAVE NEW WORLD... anybody else out there read/reading it?

    I loved it... in that wierd, god this is horrible sort of way. Anyways, I'd like to chat with someone about the book... none of my real-world friends have read it.

    My own wonderings...
    What do you think of soma? Is happiness without truth/reality good?
    Are the people to blame for the society they live in/how they live?
    How much of the modern world is reflected in it?
    I think that there is a lot of similarities... the people don't even see that they are slaves to the system... they enjoy being cogs in a happy machine. Whether that's wrong or not, I don't know. But they seek happiness in consuming, in relationships that lack emotion, in stability without passion. That seems like a lot of people I know.
    PM or reply with your thoughts please!
     

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