Boycotting the Olympics does not make any sense

Discussion in 'Protest' started by HARRYJIN, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. ybbhfdf

    ybbhfdf Member

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    Dear gardener, I see you are very active in this forum :)
    should we forward a certificate that Tibet is belong to China every year?
    we, all the Chinese including Tibet people, take it as granted for hundreds years
    how many have you learn about History of China
    pls aware there are 56 folkes in China besides Han, they all Chinese, although they may say different languages (but almost all the people use Chinese), this may be quite different with USA
    if some one say Taiwan want to be independent as a country, I will not be stunned, because Taiwan has not been undercontolled by mainland government for a very long time at recent say 90 years, that a very complicate area and subtle situation
    but if some one tell me Tibet want to be a country, I feel nothing but angry
    can you understand this feeling of a common Chinese people?

    For the Tiananmen student, I am very sry I also know little about this because I was young at that time, and I cannot get any info in China because you know your government will cheat you sometime. But I know that should be the fault of my government otherwise they should tell us what happen at that time, but that case is totally different with Tibet chaos which threat our goverment by distorying pubilic facilities and hurting common people. pls recall that the students just despose they did not did anything bad like that. What is more, Olympic is the game of all the Chinese, is the game of whole world, our goverment had done something wrong but pls donot be the foe of all Chinese and the Games

    by the way, what's the maining of MFN, thanks!
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Most Favoured Nation, it's a trading term.


     
  3. stev90

    stev90 Banned

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    Sorry, but you're a fuckin' idiot.

    If Tibetans were Chinese, they wouldn't call themselves Tibetans to begin with.

    The only history you know is the one cooked up by your fuckin' mainland Chinese government.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  5. stev90

    stev90 Banned

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    Tibet did not originally belong to China.


    Tibet was a sovereign state, in fact, at one point, Tibet itself was an empire, and was even a threat to China itself.

    The point is, you Chinese people must admit that you grabbed and occupied Tibet by force. For the very same reasons, that the U.S. grabbed the present southwestern part of the United States from Mexico, the reason being, territorial expansion and imperialism.

    So, don't give us this bullshit that Tibetans are Chinese, or that Tibet was originally an integral part of China, because it wasn't.
     
  6. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Well the opinions of Americans are certainly less important than the opinions of Taiwanese people.

    I am wondering how Taiwan is viewing the disturbances in Xi Zang, how will this affect the desirability within Taiwan for an Anschluss? ( look it up)

    Taiwan has a brand new goverment which favors closer ties to China. Ma Ying jeou favors direct flights, a customs union and more investment in China.
    Disturbances in China's West may close this window of opportunity. Do China's leaders even care? Do they intend to force the issue anyway?
     
  7. ybbhfdf

    ybbhfdf Member

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    Dear stev90, I appreciate your open mind, in light of your theory,
    you should return the land of Mexica but also all the territory to Indians and go back to Europe


    Quote: If Tibetans were Chinese, they wouldn't call themselves Tibetans to begin with.

    How do you know this, have you been in Tibet and ask very people there who speaking Chinese?? pls don't make conclusion before talk

    and I wonder where the history knowledge of you learned and who cooked it
    as you are very sure your history knowledge are totally true
     
  8. ybbhfdf

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    genocide in Tibet? There are so many Tibetan in Tibet
    genocide Indians, we can hardly find a Indian in American
    when I say Indian, I mean the aboriginal in America
     
  9. recklessrick

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    One day China will own the U.S.$$$$$$$$$$
     
  10. ybbhfdf

    ybbhfdf Member

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    joking
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I think you are misguided. I am not proud of what was done to the Native Americans, but that doesn't justify China's behavior.

    According to the 2003 Census there are 2,786,652 Native Americans in the US. In fact in my area there are five different health clinics run by the local tribes and open to the general public at reduced rates. They are a valuable part of the population in California.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    They already do. But they do not own our freedoms or our souls. Money does not buy you the right to infringe on personal liberties.

    And the American consumer can reverse that situation, by boycotting Chinese goods and activities. The Corporate gods will be unhappy, but so be it.
     
  13. pineapple08

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    Yes China has been made safe for capitalism and the commercial interest there in . So with one billion extra consumers the IOC could not wait nor could anyone else with commerce on the mind. As for Tibet and the Chinese gov forceful record on many things, the problems that have emerged just recently are a just a thorn in the side.
     
  14. concor1

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    tibetans are lucky compared to native americans. has any native american make to the whitehouse, or even governor of a small state, or even mayor?

    tibetan areas are much ruled by the tibetan ppl, and many tibetans make to the national congress in china.

    who are you to justify china? the genocide done to native americans or the poor life they have now?
     
  15. concor1

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    tibet problem is on the hand of CIA. DL has been on payrolls of CIA, and CIA fund everything he wants. DL just puppet of CIA.
     
  16. concor1

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    there were more than 10 million north american indians 400 years ago. genocided by the white ppl 90%!
     
  17. concor1

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    you are a moron. there were 56 minorities in china. tibetan chinese, hui chinese, dong chinese etc etc.

    the only history you should know about your country is genocide. millions of the native american indians,vietnams, koreans, the last time i checked vietnam and korea are on the other side of the ocean. why americans so fond of genocide? even travel so far away to satisfy your perverted need?

    you are a piece of miserable ass!
     
  18. concor1

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    1953: Korea is permanently partitioned across the DMV (55,000 USA soldiers, one million south Koreans, one million Chinese, two million North Koreans have died)
    1968: civil rights leader Martin Luther King is assassinated
    The US begins a secret bombing campaign of Cambodia
    US president Richard Nixon approves carpet bombing and land invasion of Cambodia
    1970: The USA invades Cambodia
    1972: Richard Nixon orders carpet bombing of civilian areas in North Vietnam during the Christmas holidays
    1973: the USA, defeated, leaves Vietnam after killing close to 2 million civilians and 1 million soldiers, and losing 58,000 men
    1973: the CIA helps the Chilean army, led by general Augusto Pinochet, overthrow the socialist government of Salvador Allende (30,000 dissidents are imprisoned and tortured, and 2,000 "disappear")
    1976: anti-Castro terrorists (possibly led by Luis Posada Carriles and funded by the CIA) blow up a Cuban airliner
    1979: the Sandinistas seize power in Nicaragua overthrowing the US-sponsored dictatorship
    1981: newly elected president Reagan trades hostages for arms with Iran, helps Saddam Hussein's Iraq against Iran, and authorizes funding and training of Islamic terrorists led by Osama Bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan
    1986: the USA bombs Libyan cities to deter colonel Qaddafi
    1986: the Iran-contra scandal in the USA reveals that the USA sold arms to Iran to fund the contras in Nicaragua
    1988: a missile fired by an American warship downs an Iranian civilian plane and kills all 290 passengers aboard
    1989: the USA invade Panama
    1994: the USA invades Haiti

    hehe..check out america's history! it seems american dont love peace. they love to make wars. and love to fund dictorship in foreign countries. hehe. why americans think ppl in foreign country deserve less democracy ? this has to do with the slavery system in US! but dont the pro-slavery defeated? maybe they secrettly return with a cover of "human rights of american ppl". genius!
     
  19. J0hn

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    No sense my arse. Beijing deserve to perish into dust for their human rights record. Against the Tibetans. In this situation, I condone all forms of activism against the olympics. I wait to see whether Britain and multi-chin Gordon Brown, will boycott the olympics or whether we will simply become bisotted with the Chinese Government.
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Chinese have learned a lot from past American mistakes like how to justify poor behavior and cover up their mistakes without claiming responsibility.
     

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