It's hard to know exactly what's going on, since there's really no such thing as a free and independent press. Can it be that hard to figure out whose interests are being served when the USA/UK send combat troops into a foreign country for the ostensible purpose of doing battle against an opposing force which never actually did them any harm ? But we know who's running the show, don't we ? We know that zionists are calling the shots, and on that basis alone we can infer that these "wars" are being fought primarily for the benefit of Israel. It's easy enough to conclude that zionism is the principle force behind all of the bloodshed, but it doesn't necessarily preclude the existence of other explanations which may also account for these conflicts. Afghanistan is also about building a trans-Asiatic pipeline for natural gas. It's also about sustaining the international drug trade. The zionists are using their strategic position inside Afghanistan for the purpose of destabilizing Pakistan, as witnessed by the repeated zionist-sponsored US missile attacks and ground force incursions into Pakistan. Are you trying to say that the USA was seeking to "defend" the Arabs when trade sanctions were initiated against them ? The fact is that nobody ever cared one iota about defending and supporting the Arabs. All such talk should be dismissed as pure nonsense. OBL and Al Qaida are "nonsense words." Both were created by the zionists in their iron-curtain newsmedia. Lies and disinformation. It just isn't militarily feasible to wipe out the Arabs in every corner of the globe. I'm sure that they (i.e. zionists) would like to wipe the Arab genome out of existence. Maybe it's a long-term project.
It's your conditioning and your brainwashing that makes me sound "anti-semitic." The US government is thoroughly owned and controlled by zionists. It isn't even a point that can be debated. It's just a fact. Just google "Walt and Mearsheimer." It's also a fact that zionists own and control the newsmedia. I can post this information, but I doubt that it's ever going to carry any weight in the minds of people who've been lied to, all of their entire lives, by the minions of disinformation and propaganda.
"Rabbi Calls for Annihilation of Arabs" (BBC) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1270038.stm "'It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable,' he was quoted as saying in a sermon delivered on Monday to mark the Jewish festival of Passover. The Lord shall return the Arabs' deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them ...'" "Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Rabbi Yosef is one of the most powerful religious figures in Israel ..."
I suppose that there are some occasions (however exceedingly rare) when the newsmedia provide a glimpse into what's really true, and the BBC's 2001 story about Rabbi Joseph (above) can be cited as one such example. The article does make an effort to downplay the rabbi's racism; it does make an effort to mitigate the truth by adding some equivocation, and yet in spite of its imperfections, it is still one of the best articles I've ever seen in the so-called "mainstream newsmedia" that deals with the problem of genocidal Jewish hatred toward the rest of humanity.
lol, whatever man.. you cant pick and choose and expect me to take you seriously.. what a fuckin joke..lol
I'd say that you have no other choice BUT to "pick and choose" if you're trying to discern those little nuggets of truth which can be found floating around on the inside of that big old septic tank that's overflowing with all sorts of fetid crap. If you swallow all of that fetid crap without making an effort to employ your critical discernment faculties ... then it seems to me that you're just a receptacle for crap.
Israel is defending it's land which the arabs have been trying to take for hundreds and hundreds of years. The Jews turned Israel into an oasis and the arabs decided they wanted it. Although I do not agree with revenge, Israel has earnt more than enough right to fight the arabs. Israel does not go around attacking countries randomly, unlike America. It defends its homeland. I guess we should boycott all American and British food then? Oh. -Matt
WHAT????? i respect ALL religions and have no intolerance for any faith.. PLEASE DO EXPLAIN YOUR ACCUSATION..
I APOLOGIZE to hippiehillbilly. I meat to write BigCityHillbilly is a classic Jew Hater. My mistake and I'm truly sorry.
thank you for the clarification.. i figured that was what you meant and its a honest mistake.. i just didnt want the comment to stand as it was..
If it was just the UK and US sending troops out there, perhaps another more cynical take on the situation could be made by myself. But they arne't the only ones out there, are they? Then you have to consider the Afghan army are helping us too...there must be a few arabs within that army, right? Lets's also not forget Arabs that came to help from the United Arab Emirates. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7318731.stm Basically we are fighting the Taleban...and Muslim extremists...pretty much one and the same thing. You say: "It's hard to know exactly what's going on" As it happens, no. It is easy to find out what is going on. If I agree with you though, how come you seem to feel you know what is going on? Yes, General Stanley McChrystal. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8101812.stm No. We both have different opinions. Mine more likely to be true, because it is backed up with evidence not speculation. I guess the Taleban were created by zionists too? How about what you are saying is rubbish? How about that?
As a thought, you could use the edit feature to change it. Side note: On some other forums I have posted at, there is a strikethrough tag. which will place a line through what lies between the tags. To bad this forum doesn't have one. Then, the strikethrough could be added to the original name and the correct one put in place all using edit. Sorry for the off-topic ramble.
OK ... so you've been able to repeat a whole bunch of gobbledygook that was fabricated by a corps of astute fiction writers. The writers are getting paid mucho dinero to churn out reams of plausible-sounding "whoppers" and other mendacious nonsense, and they do it all within the context of a closed-system of propaganda which unfortunately passes for "news." But propaganda doesn't constitute evidence ! Please don't ever try to dignify that hogwash by referring to it as "evidence" ! It certainly lies within the power of the news-moguls to create their own straw men against whom they can wage battle. So, if you're asking me if the "Taliban" are being used as a justification for carrying out a zionist-inspired conquest in Afghanistan and Pakistan, I would have to give my answer in the affirmative. I would have to answer 'yes' that it's very probable, in the same way that "Hamas" was used as a justification for carrying out mass murder in Gaza, and in the same way that "Hezbollah" was used as a justification for carrying out mass destruction in Southern Lebanon.
The Arabs are indigenous to the region and the Jews are mostly outsiders who invaded the region. The Jews invaded Palestine after living in places like Eastern Europe and the USA. The invaders are mostly white-skinned "ashkenazis," i.e. primarily Eastern European in origin, and they are mostly the descendants of converts to Judaism. Only the Sephardim can make a legitimate claim to the region. In fact, the Sephardim lived side-by-side with the Arabs for many many centuries, and they got along just fine. The USA is being used as a tool for carrying out the strategic aims of Israel. Do you remember those cluster bombs that were planted by Israel in Southern Lebanon back in 2006? Israel also attacked a US Navy ship in international waters in 1967. In the late 1950s, Israel attacked a US facility in Egypt and then tried to frame the situation by making it look like the attack was carried out by so-called "Arabs," when in fact the attackers were actually Jews who were dressed up to look like Arabs. Israel fabricates excuses for committing mass murder against mostly unarmed civilian populations. I am advocating a boycott of "kosher" food because Judaism is a hostile religion. If Judaism were truly a religion of peace, I would never be calling for a boycott of "kosher" food. I know all about Joseph Trumpledor and the "chalutzim" and all the rest of it because I used to attend Yeshiva. Judaism can be changed from the inside. I would like to see a TRUE reform movement that seeks to transform Judaism into a religion of peace and goodwill.
Handwaving argument. You wave it away like magic: Hocus Pocus! Worthless in debate. No it does not. Why? Because there are thousands of news reporters who are self-centered self-righteous pricks. They think that they are too important to let the moguls tell them what to report. They gather the information. They report it. If they were being told what to say they would squeal like pigs in their self-righteous anger by the thousand. But, they don't. Because it isn't happening. You must present credible evidence that all these self-righteous guys would just shut their mouths and be quiet. I am waiting. No more handwaving. Do it. I am calling out the nonsense because it is simply not believable that so many self important people would not rise up as a group against such control.
BigCityHillbilly, if you can't even manage to accept the Taleban are real or aknowledge Arab soldiers are fighting with us in Afghanistan...then I'll leave you to your zionist conspiracies...cheerio.