You know, actually thinking about it, one of my ex girlfriends, her family was Jewish and they were the most loving accepting family ever. ... just had to get that out there ... As for all these quotes from the Old Testament: And? Those are historical instructions for the Jewish people that probably enabled them to survive up to this point. Relax. Go talk to a Rabbi and ask him if these things you are saying are indicative of Jewish belief, if the average Jew alive today believes that they are to act in such a way as to smite their enemies with vengeance? I think most Jewish folks are like the rest of us religious/spiritual folks and are more concerned with THEIR relationship with God than anything involving smiting you or taking over the world.
I guess that we'll never know just how loving and just how good the Arabs really are, since we've been so busy committing mass murder against them. I would venture that the Arabs really ARE very nice people in spite of all the bad things which have been said about them. I wouldn't call it "survival" when the Bible God commands "his people" to commit mass murder against the neighboring tribes. Look at what Israel did to Lebanon only a few years ago. Israel has this incredible knack for inventing lame excuses for the most heinous of crimes. It should be obvious that the rabbis were simply offering up a blood sacrifice to "adonoi elohaynu." Israel is applied Judaism. I can only wonder why more Jews aren't speaking out against the rabbis and their horrid holy books. I used to kiss the Torah at my local synogogue on Saturday mornings. The rabbi used to lead a procession down the synogogue aisles, and everybody would take turns kissing the Torah when it came around. "Havu la'donoi, p'nai alim, havu la'donoi, k'vod va'oz." When you kiss something, it means that you're engaging in an act of affection toward the thing that you're kissing.
TheChangingTide, If you have read this thread you may pick on BigCityHillbilly's strategy, tactics and obsfucation...good luck getting past it. I can guarantee you won't though.
BigCityHillbilly is an absolute Jew hater. He's a hatefull bigot who hides behind a computer screen, because he's not man enough to spread his BS irl.
if you want to stop eating foods branded kosher then go ahead the idea of the food laws is to separate the jew from the non jew, most laws are towards separating jews from non jews - infact its the bedrock of the old testament. israelis i have found to be relatively normal what makes them dangerous is when the fanatics indoctrinate them and encourage them to commit genocide on behalf of jehovah. jehovah to my knowledge in their own records only ever "revealed" himself at the time of the ten commandments - well at least that thats whats inferred. after this point jehovah never spoke to the jewish people again. exactly why would an all powerful god need prophets or military strongmen to interprete his signs? if jehovah was so strong why wouldn't he just kill everyone who goes against his will HIMSELF ie do the dirty work himself instead of talking to one person who then tells the jewsh people to kill as many non jews as possible (and self hating jews or jews who go against jehovahs will)? as for the concept of israel, what started out as a reasonable idea jews returning to part of their roots (which incidentally should return to egypt and iraq if you wanted to get technical) became a monster. initially the jews bought land, they were attacked by the natives who became jealous of their achievements because the new settlers were prepared to get off their arse and do something productive. despite everything if the jews had continued with their policy of purchase rather than criminal activity (stealing) none of the problems in the world that we see now would ever have happened. what is also curious is that for a people persecuted for so long, that they have since being a state have engaged on a full frontal campaign of persecution - its obvious that if jehovah wanted "his" people to learn anything that they never did, they are committting exactly the same acts that got them in trouble as before. as usual the religious "authorities" still incite jews to go on and commit more crimes against humanity. heres an idea stop attacking palestinians stop destroying their crops only "peace talks" will solve the problem now, the israelis have been waging war against the owners of the land since 1948 and its not worked out for them. only purchase and compensation will work now. imagine if the first and only law given to the jews was 1 try not to fuck people over.
I think this is what he might say: "I don't mind Jewish people per se. I just feel sorry for those that are seduced buy x y z and are following a murderous blah blah blah religion." This allows him to like Jews but still insult almost every single one of them on an almost daily basis.
Ah, thank you guys for the clarification. I know some of you have been sticking with this conversation for a while, and for these concise summaries I thank you! Hillbilly: It's ok man, I'll still give you a hug. Maybe there is just too much killing in the world today ... but your stance against Jewish folks is just more hate to the fire. There's already enough hate, just do your thing. Go ahead and boycott kosher products. You are though inspiring me to get educated more fully on the story behind the conflict in the middle east. I took a class on it once, time to re-engage that part of my mind.
<< "In a halakhic discussion, the Rabbis state that a Jewish woman may not act as a midwife for a Gentile woman, since she would help to deliver a child for idolatry. A Gentile woman, however, may assist in the delivery of the child of an Israelite (Mishnah Avodah Zarah 2:1). Another position forbids such midwifery by a Gentile woman since the non-Jews are suspected of capital offenses, and we fear that she might intentionally cause the baby’s death during the childbirth or immediately afterwards. If, however, other Jewish women stand by and supervise her, she may deliver the child of a Jewish woman (T Avodah Zarah 3:3). According to some Rabbis, this is forbidden, even with supervision, since she could cause the death of the infant without being detected." >> http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/midwife-midrash-and-aggadah
<< "Mezizah: By this is meant the sucking of the blood from the wound. The mohel takes some wine in his mouth and applies his lips to the part involved in the operation, and exerts suction, after which he expels the mixture of wine and blood into a receptacle (see Fig. 4, below) provided for the purpose. This procedure is repeated several times, and completes the operation, except as to the control of the bleeding and the dressing of the wound." >> http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br_4.html
a jew hatin hippie, well I never... can't we all just get along? you shouldn't be buying doughnuts anyways, they are bad for you! I don't even know what kosher means???? I eat mostly vegan stuff ( I have a weakness for cheese, oh, and veal cooked with rabbit jk...ew[I wasn't kidding about the cheese though nom nom nom])