black watch deployment in baghdad

Woah woah woah... what IS your problem with Dok? Let it lie Matthew gees

I know Dok a little better than you (as most of us do on the forum) and Dok isn't devious and dosn't try to trap people out.

OK i don't think we should get personal, (and that includes you )... but I do agree with Doks moral and political arguments.

I think he does a good job of showing the foolishness of Treehouses view.

Clairexxx

 

It is a point of view and should not be called foolish.

I have let it lie with Dok..i was merely pointing out that Dok says this is a free forum but then tells an unagresive un insulting person to go piss off .

You do agree with doks morale and political arguements fine...Treehouse does not , what is wrong with that.

 

Nothing is wrong with people disageeing Matthew.

I find Treehouses views to be foolish... it's my opinion... you'll also find I havent resorted to any personal attacks here.

But why have you entered a debate on Blackwatch and turned it into an attack on Dok?... also derailing the thread?

Gees, i stuck up for you before too... willl know better in future

Clairexxx

 

Your true colours came out a long time ago, you thick, ignorant twat.

Everyone but you seems to share my opinion of TreeHouse, so forgive me if I take you about as seriously as a Tory party manifesto.

I think he managed that all by himself, bu constantly posting in support of a war that nobody here agrees with.

There's such a thing as a foolish point of view. It's really not that radical a concept.

I think you'll find he's been directly insulted by me, Paul, Zonk and Showmet. So take your personal vendetta with me and shove it up your stupid, ill-informed, idiotic ass. You're a dick. The day you die, the value of the world will increase. Give back your oxygen and let someone more deserving use it.

 

You said treehouses views were foolish not that you personaly thought treehouses views were foolish , but i understand what you mean.

I won't bang on about Dok i have said what i wanted .. i won't argue the toss about it .... it was only my personal point of view and was as relevant as

i assume zonk and dok thought their comments were.

I do appreciate it

Sorry but Dok and Zonk derailed this thread from about post No. 32

 

If you had been following things of late you would see that Treehouse has deliberately derailed several threads on here, turning them all into his personal support for the Iraq war. He has used the same argument over and over again. It's not just a matter of having his say and a good debate, it's too repetitive for that.

It's got to the point when most of us are so bored with the same tired old arguments that all we can do is tell them to shut up.

 

well you did not..wich is the diffrence between some and others, you can if you want though hahah

 

I'm a little concerned over your 'banter' with Dok. I know it's not entirely your fault, but it has got rather personal, with regards to the Black Watch thread. Debate is all good and healthy, but singling out a person, even if you've had a past history, without making any real argument against them, is against the guidelines. I'd ask you please to not engage Dok in this way anymore. My best advice would be to turn your back on the issue. If you really want to draw yourself into a debate with him, then please do so in a civil manner, without recourse to personal attacks. Thank you....

Peace,
Peace Phoenix

 

If you think what i was doing was against the guidelines then i apoligise for that.

case closed

 

Thanks

 

But Saddams' brutal regime was continually imprisoning, beating and torturing to death thousands of dissidents every year, year in year out. The entire population of Iraq was suffering either directly or indirectly from Saddams' despotic rule. Were we supposed to ignore the plight of the Iraqi people and allow them to be oppressed, terrorised, imprisoned, beaten or tortured to death! Or were we to do something to help? Saddams' Iraq was brutal and cruel beyond belief! Did you know that his regime tested chemical and biological weapons on live people, on prisoners who were left to die in agony! Under Saddam the whole country was a concentration camp with the population kept in a state of fear.

You seem to have a convient way of making excuses for leaving brutal dictators in power.

 

Someone left the door open!

 

Have you ever looked at the Unicef figures for deaths caused as a direct result of UN sanctions? yep 4500 children a month, quite a lot isn't it?

 

There's no point having people on ignore coz you read what they've posted when people quote them!

A little floor in the forums perhaps!!!

 

Yeah, or I'd have used it long ago!

 

Have you ever heard of the UNs' oil for food programme? Under that programme Iraq was allowed to sell a certain amount of oil inexchange for money for humanitarian goods only. Plus Saddam was smuggling oil to other countries via pipeline tunnels so he was making even more billions of dollars. But did he spend this money on humanitarian supplies for his people? No he squandered most of this money on building vast palaces for himself and on his armed forces!

Those sanctions were also in place to stop him getting him to comply with UN resolutions which were to allow the complety unfettered access of UN weapons inspectors to all areas of Iraq including his presidential palaces which he had declared off limits and these were no normal size palaces, their grounds covered an area about twice the size of Hyde Park. When UN inspectors were re-admitted it was found he was spying on them and so knew in advance the places they were planning to visit this made the new inspections useless and so they were withdrawn.

 

Are you incapable of understanding a very simple point? Nobody here is disputing that Saddam wasn't a very pleasant guy. What we dispute is whether the was waged to overthrow him was motivated by altruism, and whether it's going to cause more problems than it solves.

*yawn*

So I take it he must've been hiding a program to produce weapons of mass destruction, eh? I guess we'll find them once we invade. Oh, hang on.....

 

Yes his palaces were so big that they must have stored masses of stockpiles of bubonic plague, anthrax and ice cream....only they didn't.

What the fuck is a 'normal size palace' you plum?

Spying on the UN weapons inspectors....whod've funk it?!

By the way you do know that Hans Blix was opposed to the war don't you?

Is that coz he's a friend of Saddams?

 

Aha! The WMD are hidden inside Hans Blix, Saddam Hussein's friend! Invade him! Invade him!!!

 

I knew he'd put on weight while he was over there!