Black Lives Do Count

a lot more white people are shot and killed by cops each year. Their lives don't matter because

A. They are white and there are too many of them in America.
B. They are white and oppress black people.
C. They are racist
D. They voted for trump
E. Doesn't fir the scenerio the media wants to present.
F. All of the above!


You must say black lives matter and support it, if you don't you are racist!

 

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Lol

 

Care to elaborate or are you just going to laugh as if that means something, but really means nothing. Over 75 percent of the people shot and killed by cops in America each year are classified white!

 

The percentage issue has been explained already several times. Your post and attempt is so cliché it gave me spontaneous dhiarrea.
I promise I respond to you more in depth and on topic when you post something worth reacting to in another way than with 'lol'

 

Sorry but it has not been explained. 75 percent of the people killed by cops are white people and 75 percent of the total population is white then what is wrong with the statistics? 10 percent of those killed by cops are black and 13 percent of the total population is black.

How exactly do you swing this as not fair to black people?

As for reacting, seems to me you did react in a wasted space sort of way.

 

Yes, it has been explained several times on this forum. Sorry you missed it if that's really the case. I think even at least once in this thread alone. Not 100% sure as there are a lot of these threads (you're in most of them)

Congrats.

 

These stats you're throwing out don't match up with anything I've ever seen. did you make them up or do you have a supporting source?

According to my research blacks make up 24% of police killings but 13% of the population, whites are 78% of the population but represent 32% of people killed by the police.
https://www.thoughtco.com/facts-about-police-killings-and-race-3026198

For those who dont understand why the rate proportionate to the population matters, what this basically means is as a black person your chances of being killed by the police are much higher than a white person

 

Yes I am anal and counted every single one for 2017

There have been 814 shootings deaths by cops in the USA this year.

Of those 814

White - 612 = 76%
Black - 189 = 11%
Hispanic - 53 = 6.5%
Asian - 11 = 1.4%
Other - 42 = 5.1%

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings/master/fatal-police-shootings-data.csv

Might have lost terack in my counting some, plus I suck at math.

If more blacks are shot it does not mean there is a biased, you can't compare population to criminals who get shot. you have to compare percentage of race committing crimes to the percentage that gets shot. People are not shot by cops because of skin colour.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.e813dae1f183

You have to account for the population. It's like saying there are more white people who are poor than black people who are poor. It's true, but it doesn't represent the facts in a very accurate way. There are a ton more white people than black people. If we look, though, at the percentage of the population being shot we see a different number. And the sad facts are startling! As noted above, African Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

 

Edit: 907 and now I don't feel like figuring up the percentages

But you really have to look at long term trends anyways

 

It's weird how percentages are cool for some and evil for others.

 

How so?

 

Just that it seems when people want to slant a story one way, they choose actual numbers. When someone wants to slant it another way, they use percentages. And for a little more spice, per capita numbers can be skewed all kinds of clever ways.

My lament is simple, that people who use these figures, or math in general to keep "score" on which people are worse than others are themselves creating racial disharmony. I remember when it seemed like the ONLY people who raped children were "white males (never called men) with wives and children". As if "ALL" white family men were some kind of public risk group. And yet, MOST white family men don't rape anyone.

And that's just one example. Serial killers is another. What's the point of "keeping score" when discussing clearly deranged maniacs? This ghoulish trend is regurgitated by our media with bated breath, serving their masters for more clicks or ad space. It's disgusting on so many levels and seems to reinforce our differences as opposed to the "we're all one race, human" kind of mindset.

Doesn't anyone get tired of this manufactured shit? Or do we crave it because our electronic entertainment has directed us to? Who is really dividing us along racial lines?

 

How America has silently accepted the rage of white males: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/opinions/mass-shootings-white-male-rage-modan-opinion/index.html


Fucking white males. Seriously!

#killallwhitemen

 

The problem is I don't think you even see the irony here.

 

We can look at the number of drug overdoses in the USA causing death in the USA. What percentage of those are white, black, Hispanic you might wonder. Is there a disproportionate number in that too? More black people die from drugs? In 2015, 33 091 people died from drug overdose in the USA. That death toll is a hell of a lot higher than the numbers shot by cops. People say that the war on drugs has targeted black people. Perhaps this saved their lives and their family is happy they don't have to worry that they will die from their addiction this year., or it has saved others lives.

Of that 33 091 - 27 056 are white (82%) 2 741 are black (8%) . 2 507 are Hispanic. (8%)

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/opioid-overdose-deaths-by-raceethnicity/?dataView=0&currentTimeframe=0&selectedDistributions=white-non-hispanic--black-non-hispanic--hispanic--total&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D

But let's ignore this because they are not a minority and it doesn't fit into today's minority victims scenerio.

Are we going to say that white lives matter because of this disproportionate number and start a movement to only help the white addicts?

Drug abuse violations according to the FBI statistic for . 1 204 162 total. 815 181 are white. 365 785 are black. 9 408 are native. 12 930 are Asian. 858 from Hawaii.

Disprortionate again, who shall we blame? Whose lives matter? Shall we create a group that virtue signals for one race to combat this, because those disprortionate number of white people who have addiction problems have been arrested for it or died because of it more so than other races. Those poor white people who have drug problem are victims or disregarded statistics because it doesn't matter in today's fight the white right scenario. Or do we look at the population as one and assign a percentage of addicts based on population regardless if race and skin colour? Is it a problem or a problem only for a race?

As we bring in refugees whose laws or way of life has been anti western society. Which is predominantly white. we will see and are seeing a rise in sexual assaults committed by refugees, thefts, assaults, vandalism, murder, which effects statistics as a whole, not based on race. but in Canada the media blocks mentioning that the perpetrator is a refugee because the government does not want to offend the refugees and create a distrust amoungst all Canadians of many colours where by we protect ourselves or avoid the new comers. These statistics are not gathered and published. Why? Groups like BLM scream racism when it was brought to the media and the fact that it was a refugee was mentioned. Success of multiculturalism is the goal, painting integration as a success is the goal. Maybe it won't work and is not working, They, the government wants the program painted as a success at all cost. They will not be returned to their country of origin. Whose lives matter? I would say the lives of children matter, not based on skin colour, but on the fact that they are our future. They are our responsibility. Accountable for myself and those who can not care for themselves, but the government disagrees with me.

 

To add. BLM includes Hispanic in their statistics. 16 percent are addicts which is higher than the percent of population that is classified as black or African American, while they include other races in their statistics and apply it all to BLM. How many black people actually call themselves African American? Painting and inflating their numbers through inclusion and exclusion! The purpose of it is to paint a picture that is not accurate and create outrage as well as race division.

 

Was going to point out that you don’t seem to be taking account of population sizes – but then discovered that you are a serial offender in that regard

How do you think basically lying is meant to help your argument?

 

The US clearly has racial problems but you are not going to be able to solve them if many people can’t even admit you have them or calls anyone who brings it up racist for being anti-white

 

Huh? I said do you compare it to the percentage of non criminals or do you take all addicts , all criminals and then divide it up? People swing tactics how they see fit. Instead of saying x amount of crimes are committed each year, x amount are solved and arrests, convictions are made for those crimes. The percentages are as followed. X amount of the crimes solved were committed, by A.. it is divided up into race and then compared to the citizens of the country. Thus percentage of those in prison or jails also includes people who are not legal citizens, inflating the percentages of crimes committed by a race but not taking into account they are not included in the population.

There are 1001 ways to slant statistics to suit ones agenda and BLM does it constantly, misleading and lying. Not sure how you figure I am lying when I provide links.

I think taking the population of crimes and the saying X % race committed these crimes and C % committed these crimes. One could take the number in federal prisons and say for example. There are 60 percent whites in prison, 15 percent black, 15 percent Hispanic, 5 percent Asian, 5 native and other. So that is the statistics for criminals in prison based on ethnicity and the statistics coincide with that. Just because you are white does not mean 60 % will commit a crime and just because you are black does not mean you have a 30% chance of commiting a crime based on percentages in prison. Does not make any one of them a victim of an injustice. it only does because someone is saying it is so, the media and people are lapping it up.

Or perhaps take race completely out of the equation. Would be accurate and x percent of these crimes were not solved. Then you will have an account that I can not argue with. Just because a race seems to be arrested more, doesn't make it a biased. maybe it is because they are stupid criminals and has nothing to do with race. That simple and that complicated. Separate those that are not a part of the eligible to vote data from those that are a part of the documented population in a seperate group,

Like the mcdonalds manager selling cocaine at mcdonalds, Is he too a statistic and targeted for his race or because he was a stupid criminal?

BLM looks to claim racism where it is not a factor and that is a fact! They work to divide.