Big Brother Using High Tech to Monitor Americans

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by skip, Dec 20, 2010.

  1. The_Man_On_The_Hill

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    I have an ignorant observation.

    There are giant cameras floating in the sky above our heads.

    Why are the cameras facing the earth rather than facing the majesty that is the open free universe?

    I mean, I see the earth all day long.

    Why take pictures from above looking down rather than the other way around?
     
  2. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    Yup its pretty disgusting alright..

    But this is what happens when your involved in so many dirty/underhanded things,YOU ASSUME EVERYONE ELSE IS ALSO!!
     
  3. merkler

    merkler Banned

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    This was long over-due incomming.
    American society earned this stupidy by refusing to think of anything other than going shopping.
     
  4. snowtiggernd

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    For many years we have been watching other countries from above, and some of them have been watching us as well. USDA uses the sattelites for mapping. Imagery is gotton so good you can see some of the rocks on the fields. Its just a matter of time before they will able to identify a specific human being.
     
  5. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Already here, they can read license plates with the military satelites. They just don't let it be known publicly just how good the resolution is and just how much detail can be seen.
    There are also resolution limitations on the ones that companies like Google use, supposedly to protect peoples privacy.
     
  6. dazedgatsby

    dazedgatsby shitheel

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    Fuck thats scary...
     
  7. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    not scary if you don't have a license plate

    just walk around flipping off the sky all the time and get your message sent . . .
     
  8. dazedgatsby

    dazedgatsby shitheel

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    :D
     
  9. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Really people... come on now...

    Go to google earth... look at a city such as LA or New York.... See for yourself what the public resolution is...

    It's quite scary if you are worried about privacy from such things...

    Then, realize that there is nothing like satellite imagery, spy technology and the such on the public market, that even comes close to what the governments already have in place...

    They can read the numbers off your credit card if you pull it out when you are outside... they can track you by heat through buildings... They can match the backgrounds of photo's with pictures online... They can identify your voice over the pbulic telephone systems...

    Yes, some of these things have been portrayed in movies, and no, that is not why I say these things...

    The US military is the biggest investor in new technologies... and they wouldn't benefit by releasing the newest and best to the public...

    Anything that came from a military research lab (or its contractors) that has been released to the public, has been done so only because what they currently have, is already 10 or 20 years ahead of the obsolescence point of the newly released tech.
     
  10. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

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    Or stealing your identity and everything you own with it.

    I'm probably a marked man for posting on this forum already, but even if they have the information, someone still needs to sort it out, right? I don't think they have the resources to sniff out every dope smokin' progressive leftist like me, but who knows?

    The scary thing is that anything you put out there on a forum or a blog or facebook or anywhere on the internet resides somewhere in memory, so it really comes down to what they're lookin' for, it's just a matter of querying a massive data base.

    Agreed. Considering how detailed google earth is, and with shit like infra-red imaging I'm sure the government has the technology to spy on every folicle of hair on your ass if they want to.
     
  11. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I think that is what I said, just not as detailed.:2thumbsup:
     
  12. ChronicTom

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    Perhaps you have more faith that people can read and interpret things without being hand held on the net then I do :)
     
  13. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    When you put it like that, yeah spoon feeding info is probably the best when dealing with a wide audience.
    Gotta dumb shit down to the lowest common denominator, don't we. :p
     
  14. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    from now on i stay inside on sunny days
     
  15. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Maybe it's not YOU they're watching, but your cats! Ever think of that?

    You may not know it but cats have been terrorizing us for millennia!

    Mine just shit on the floor (just beyond his litter box!). Who do I call in homeland security about this? It's terrible! And the smell! Help! I'm being terrorized by an American Shorthair terrorist!

    Think about it... Cats wander in and out all the time, no? Just what do they communicate to their other feline friends in Al-Catda about us?
     
  16. ChronicTom

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    New market in tinfoil cat hats just open up?
     
  17. psychedelicg1rl

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    10 or 20 years seems like quite a bit of a stretch, especially with the way the powers of information technology are increasing at a compounding rate. Not to mention that many of the tools we, the general public, have access to have been developed by companies that have been on the leading edge of data/info technology for well over a decade. While some of these businesses may be among gov't contractors, the concern should be if Big Brother has a controlling hand in said companies.

    Although Haliburton comes to mind, it's doubtful hi-tech businesses are getting usurped by the powers that be, without it leaking to the media. Look at the high-profile bailout of the auto makers... unless this was a great diversion from other things afoot beneath the surface.

    The problems with the Hubble telescope could be a lesson of why not to over estimate the power of conventional technology.

    Cameras, RFID chips, smart-phones, etc, etc...

    At this point, it's about the actual data and how we use it. The cost of constantly reworking data systems to keep on the cutting edge seems like a pretty comforting factor, considering our governing entity may be far too bureaucratic, conventional and broke to stay on the edge of the tech/info curve. It's an issue of upgrading national data infrastructure. Such initiatives carry enormous expense with substantial planning and ongoing dedicated commitment. The homoland dept of suckurity seems to have knee-jerk reactions to current breeches.

    The internet may have started as a gov't lab based system, but that has certainly evolved and the control of it's potential has been eclipsed by the myriad of open-source freedoms that are easily within reach of even the casual user.

    The web has somewhat leveled the playing ground (at least temporarily) and the man is struggling to get a grasp of how to manage control over everything. Everything. Hell, Congress can barely address fundamental civil issues in this age of bipartisan stalemate.

    Realistically, it's the booming ISPs that hold the power. The FCC almost seems like a joke... unless Big Brother really is the man behind the service provider curtains. However, a takeover of major players like Comcast and AT&T would be very difficult to contain from the public.

    Huge kudos to Google for their efforts in avoiding unethical roadblocks (ie. the China market); notably at great expense to their own business.

    One more entity to be seriously wary of: Facebook. They're about to release facial recognition scanning on user photos (if they haven't already done so).

    The companies mentioned above are definitely some organizations to keep an eye on as legislation continues crawling along at a snail's pace.

    Like church and state, tech-business and democracy don't appear to be mixing well (or yet anyway). There's just too much room for abuse of power.

    I suppose time will tell, but these may be looked back upon as "the good old days".

    Happy surfing and smile. [​IMG] You're online!
     
  19. ChronicTom

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    10 to 20 years is likely an understatement. Look at how long it was that the military had stealth technology before they admitted it publicly and opened it up to their public contractors.

    We are not as far behind now as we used to be for sure, but don't underestimate what they don't share...
     
  20. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    lol, you got me there . . .

    btw this forum has been nearly impossible for me to access since shortly after this particular thread was started

    :hide:
     

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